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Re: Apple Updates iMac

#101

Post by dntrkv »

kunai wrote: post #70
numbsafari wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This will sound pedantic, but... It isn't hard to replace them. You pull out your iPhone, use the Apple Store App to schedule an appointment, drop off your iMac at the store, go have lunch at Sbarro and then pick it up and go home. If you are buying an iMac, you are buying a sealed solution. If you are the kind of user who wants to replace HDD or upgrade components, the iMac is not the computer you should buy. Bad bu…

He said Apple would continue to sell trucks and cars, but he expects the cars to cannibalize the truck market. There's no use in a truck with a bed cover that's locked into place and unremovable. There's equally no use in a truck that's not built body-on-frame, and the Mac, one of my favorite computing platforms, is moving away from it.

Your analogy is nothing like what Apple is doing. A more apt analogy would be selling trucks that don't have easily upgradeable engines where you wouldn't be able to access the engine components without a ton of work, which is exactly how they build most trucks nowadays. The sealed bedcover is more like a limitation in software since that's part of the functionality of the truck. Upgrading a Mac isn't part of the functionality, it's something you do to increase the speed at which you work on it.

And as for the body-on-frame comparison, I don't really know what you mean there. If you are talking about the actual, physical chassis of the MacPro not being on a conventional computer frame, then again, that is a bad analogy since a body-on-frame chassis on a truck directly affects the towing and load capability of a truck, which is not so with computers. You can have your components scattered across the floor and they would perform just as well as in a conventional chassis.

Re: Apple Updates iMac

#102

Post by Samuel_Michon »

falcolas wrote: post #100
numbsafari wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This will sound pedantic, but... It isn't hard to replace them. You pull out your iPhone, use the Apple Store App to schedule an appointment, drop off your iMac at the store, go have lunch at Sbarro and then pick it up and go home. If you are buying an iMac, you are buying a sealed solution. If you are the kind of user who wants to replace HDD or upgrade components, the iMac is not the computer you should buy. Bad bu…

I'm in Bozeman, MT. Where do I stop by to drop it off again? Not everyone lives in a major city.

The nearest Apple Store is in Boise, Idaho. It’s only a 500mi drive! But seriously, in your case, you’d call Apple and they’d send either a technician or a courier – or you could take it to an Apple Authorized Reseller, there are loads of them.

Re: Apple Updates iMac

#103

Post by nknighthb »

falcolas wrote: post #100
numbsafari wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This will sound pedantic, but... It isn't hard to replace them. You pull out your iPhone, use the Apple Store App to schedule an appointment, drop off your iMac at the store, go have lunch at Sbarro and then pick it up and go home. If you are buying an iMac, you are buying a sealed solution. If you are the kind of user who wants to replace HDD or upgrade components, the iMac is not the computer you should buy. Bad bu…

I'm in Bozeman, MT. Where do I stop by to drop it off again? Not everyone lives in a major city.

601 Nikles Drive, Suite 12

https://locate.apple.com/service/?pt=4&lat=45.6834599&lon=-1...

Re: Apple Updates iMac

#104

Post by bpaluzzi »

maaku wrote: post #64
tomp wrote: post #55

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It has a really poor harddrive (32GB) - I realize it's not meant to be used offline, but the world is not yet fully online. Also, what system is it running? For me, one of the main advantages of owning a mac is the OS - nice, slick, fast, *NIX (hence good for developers), without all the configuration hassle of Linux.

Interesting how you call OS X UNIX, as opposed to Linux.

If by "interesting", you mean "accurate"

Re: Apple Updates iMac

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Post by wmeredith »

vvhn wrote: post #32
ChikkaChiChi wrote: post #12

Is Apple getting gunshy about iterative releases? Back in Steve's day this would have been tacked on to at least the launch of something like the new Mac Pro.

That's quite a selective "Back in Steve's day" memory. A lot of spec bumps like this one for Macs and Macbooks happened exactly through press releases like these.

>> That's quite a selective "Back in Steve's day" memory.

Is there any other kind?

Re: Apple Updates iMac

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Post by bpaluzzi »

dennis_vartan wrote: post #18
MattBearman wrote: post #8

Somewhat related: Anyone know if they're going updating the displays soon? I'm about to buy a 27" Thunderbolt display, but I don't wanna drop £900 on a screen only for a better one to be released one month later...

If you're not tied to Apple, with my Air I use a Dell U2713HM -- an excellent display of the same size and without the annoying glass screen. Also plugs into the Thunderbolt port.

Just one anecdote -- I went through 5 of these before giving up and going down to the 24" model. Horrible image burn-in -- literally 5 minutes of screen appearance would leave a residual image sharp enough to read text off of for 30+ minutes.

(These were bought through 3 different Amazon sellers [well, Amazon and 2 different marketplace sellers], so the likelihood of a bad batch was reduced.)

Re: Apple Updates iMac

#107

Post by nkeets »

jasonlotito wrote: post #82
threeseed wrote: post #38

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It's all pretty simple really. The number of people who want more hard disk space and aren't willing to use an external drive is small. So small in fact that it isn't worth Apple's time to design a computer specifically catered to them.

> So small in fact that it isn't worth Apple's time to design a computer specifically catered to them. Apple never appreciated it when other companies treated them in the same manner.

Companies don't have feelings.

Re: Apple Updates iMac

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Post by selectodude »

AlexeyBrin wrote: post #79
chaz wrote: post #16

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Mac Pros are due soon -- "Fall 2013." I wouldn't be surprised to see updated displays to coincide with that launch.

It is highly unlikely to see any updated displays (I suppose you are thinking at something like a retina 27" display) this year. The update of the iMac suggests that the display is not ready yet for a major change.

There are 4K resolution wallpapers in OS X Mavericks, and Apple is pitching the 4K display capability pretty hard in the previews of the new Mac Pro. The display alone might cost 3500-4000 dollars though, which is completely ridiculous for an iMac. I look at the iMac as the MacBook Air and the new Mac Pro as the retina MacBook Pro. There can be differentiation.

Re: Apple Updates iMac

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Post by jms703 »

kunai wrote: post #68
Pxtl wrote: post #30

I'm mostly disappointed in how poor the Win32-based hardware vendors are at following Apple's lead. Apple is narrowing the cost gap in their hardware, and their quality is still leaps and bounds ahead of the competitors. If I want to buy a solid all-in-one device with a minimally usable on-board videocard so I could fire up the occasional game (not a hardcore gaming rig but keeping lighter fare an option) then the co…

This is false and misleading. ThinkPads, while the new ones aren't too much to my taste, are better-constructed, more fully-featured, and more understated than MacBooks. On the AIO side, there are plenty of desktops from Dell and Lenovo that compete quite well. I'm really sick of how every tiniest bit of Apple news is upvoted to the front page. When did a thousand fanboys join HN? I thought this forum was supposed to…

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Re: Apple Updates iMac

#110

Post by grecy »

johnbellone wrote: post #73

There is yet a solid date on 10.9 release (sometime in October?) and Apple is updating the iMac line. From the article it says they are shipping with Mountain Lion - I hope that the machines that ship have a free upgrade path to 10.9 because I would hate to have to put out another $20.

They will. Apple always do that when they release new hardware within ~2 months of a new major MAC OS X
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