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Re: SteamOS

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Post by mcv »

davidhollander wrote: post #361
wonderzombie wrote: post #343

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is likely to be coupled with some manner of hardware launch, as well. I am skeptical that the name "Linux" will be a particularly useful term in that context. Couple that with my skepticism that they're actually shipping much if any traditional Linux userspace software, and it's even less useful to compare potential SteamOS users to traditional Linux users. Other than that I agree that with Valve as a patron the…

What are your definitions for "traditional Linux userspace software" and "traditional Linux users"? Do you consider Android to be "Linux"?

Android is Linux, but very clearly not "traditional Linux".

"Traditional Linux" suggests to me the traditional distributions like Fedora, Ubuntu, SUSE, Debian, etc.

It'll be interesting to see how much SteamOS will look like a traditional Linux. Considering the many Linux offerings on Steam, I suspect they'd like to have executable compatibility on that level, which Android probably doesn't have. But will it be as wide open as a traditional Linux? I suspect not.

Re: SteamOS

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Post by quiesce »

toblender wrote: post #179

I wonder if history will repeat itself, will Valve be the next Apple? Apple took FreeBSD and makes it into OSX. > Valve takes Linux and makes it into SteamOS. Apple makes iTunes for music, unifying digital music download > Valve makes Steam for games, unifying digital game download Apple make IPOD for digital music playing > Valve make (SteamBox?) for game playing Damn I wish I could own some Valve stock...

> Apple took FreeBSD and makes it into OSX.

No, they took NeXTSTEP and made it into OS X. However much they may now have in common, the history of the codebase goes back years prior to the existence of FreeBSD.

Re: SteamOS

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Post by lmm »

chii wrote: post #475
sliverstorm wrote: post #342

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That could be interesting... but I must say, the Xbox360 controller is fantastic, inexpensive, and easily integrates with a PC. Sort of a solved problem, if you will, so unless they have significant value to add, I'd hope they'd focus elsewhere.

but microsoft can simply make the xbox360 controller difficult to implement in other games (tho i don't know how they'd do that…), and would effectively stop indies from supporting it. Having a proprietary controller, but coded using an open library (akin to what the steam workshop does), might mean that it's easier to have games implement controller support that's not fragmented.

It's a standard USB HI device, you don't need any kind of MS code to use it. Changing it would make it incompatible with their existing xbox360 install base and games for windows. I guess they could stop selling the xbox360 controller, but why would they when it's making them money?

Re: SteamOS

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Post by fredsanford »

I find it ironically funny that, after all of these years of having a near monopoly Microsoft is losing out to the open source it tried so hard to sabotage in the late '90s and early 2000s.

Then, while the MS boat is leaking and sailing haphazardly across the computing landscape, along comes Valve to put a stake in the heart of the MS gaming division...

Could this truly be the beginning of the end of this giant leech on the computer industry?

The combination of this "story" and this one from slate (http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/09/23/microsoft...) makes me wonder...

Re: SteamOS

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Post by deletes »

xal wrote: post #363
deletes wrote: post #241

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We know that the circle represents the SteamOS. The brackets int the second announcement must represent SteamBox. The third announcement has two circles with a plus sign in between which has to do something with connectivity to other players. Probably an equivalent of Xbox Live. ( My bet for the name is SteamPipe :) ) If Half-Life 3 was represented it would have to be a sign inside the circle as it is mainly a single…

The third icon could be O: Steam OS + O: Orange Box 2. Orange Box 2 may include Half Life 3 and more.

Damn now you got me exited..., No! Half-Life 3 is still far far away.

Re: SteamOS

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Post by deletes »

mwilcox wrote: post #429
evanmoran wrote: post #395

As someone mentioned this is just the first announcement of three: http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/ Announcement 1, SteamOS: is just a fancy way to say you can create custom Steam consoles by just installing some software. Make the box as good or a cheap as you want and everything will just workPretty awesome, but definitely this will be dwarfed by... Announcement 2, people are guessing is a Valve distribute…

O+O OS + Oculus?

That is a nice idea, however Oculus is not consumer ready yet.

Re: SteamOS

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Post by DigitalSea »

Anonymous9823 wrote: post #367
DigitalSea wrote: post #346

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If they announce Half Life 3 as an exclusive launch title for Steam OS, I think there are a lot of people who would give it a shot. Steam is a very influential and well-connected company, don't underestimate them.

It's an operating system, there are not going to be exclusive launch titles. Unless of course, you think Valve is going to release HL3 only for Linux users, but that idea is absurd.

Games run on operating systems. They revealed there are going to be some AAA titles coming to the OS. Of course if HL3 eventually is confirmed it won't be a solely Linux only release but that doesn't mean Valve won't release it for the OS though. It was an example.

Re: SteamOS

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Post by mortdeus »

rkalla wrote: post #26

This is effectively the software-only equivalent of a console launch. Is anyone else skeptical that they can motivate publishers to spend time/money porting their games to the Linux platform? Valve certainly has a better chance than most at pulling this off (and likely enough user/market data to make this seem like a valid investment) I am still super skeptical that these publishers are going to spend the time portin…

I wrote a response to your comment but it became rather long so I decided to make it into a blog post instead.

http://mortdeus.blogspot.com/2013/09/linux-core-component-po...

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