Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

techcrunch.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

181–186 of 186 posts

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

#181

Post by ZeroGravitas »

jasonlotito wrote: post #38
alexfringes wrote: post #8

The article fails to mention that this significantly surpasses the most commonly repeated estimate of 6M (made by Piper Jaffray). Source: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57603553-37/apple-expected...

FTA: Analysts had predicted between 5 and 8 million launch weekend sales across both devices That is a link to another earlier article on Apple Insider discussing such predictions: "In fact, Kuo said in a note to investors on Wednesday that Apple will likely ship 6 to 8 million new iPhones over the devices' first weekend of sales. By comparison, Apple racked up 5 million sales when the iPhone 5 debuted last year. Ear…

Notice that the higher numbers are shipped, not sold.

The iPhone 5S seems to be selling briskly, but how many 5c are still in the channel after 3 days?

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

#182

Post by jmelloy »

k-mcgrady wrote: post #73
ChikkaChiChi wrote: post #54

I wouldn't be so quick to start doing the Apple victory dance. A lot of people waited to upgrade because the iPhone 5 was an iterative device and I have several anecdotal cases where people I knew said they would wait for a 5S. Apple has painted itself somewhat into a corner now. Similar to Windows Service Packs, people are waiting for the second version of Apple products to get it 'right'. This isn't to say they got…

>> "A lot of people waited to upgrade because the iPhone 5 was an iterative device" What?? The 'S' is the iterative product. The 5 was a new design and new screen size and overall a much bigger update. >> "people are waiting for the second version of Apple products to get it 'right'." What was wrong with the 5 that the 5S fixes?

I had this conversation with a friend a few days ago. He was like, "The 5S seems like what the 5 should've been."

When I said something like, "The 5 upgraded the body style, the screen, the processor, and the camera, what's left?" he responded, "Most of that was probably just suppliers saying they'd no longer make certain parts."

He's not a techy, but is a Boeing engineer. I'm not really sure where that attitude comes from, but it's interesting to see what people outside of the tech bubble think.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

#183

Post by snom380 »

logicallee wrote: post #80
snom380 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You missed the part where the fingerprint is stored so it's not even accessible to the OS and are never stored online? Oh, but I guess the NSA has a back door and will manage to collect them all without anyone noticing, right? Just like they record all the sound from your phone mic and upload it? I'm all against unlawful spying by the NSA, but give me a break.

>You missed the part where the fingerprint is stored so it's not even accessible to the OS and are never stored online? I guess you missed the past 14 weeks of revelations. Either that or I admire your dedication to believing general company claims in the face of all evidence that this is not the status quo.

I didn't miss them, and I'd like you to link to the revelation that tha NSA routinely collects data stored locally on iPhones with Apples consent and involvement.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

#184

Post by Terretta »

bane wrote: post #121
panacea wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) A friend stood in line for a few hours, got to the front, found out they didn't have the color he wanted and left. – At the Apple store I was at, Apple staff greeted people entering the queue, asked them what they intended to purchase and gave them a card (reservation) 2) A colleague in another company got one and she immediately remarked, "it looks just like Android!". – You overheard a conversation in another co…

> – At the Apple store I was at, Apple staff greeted people entering the queue, asked them what they intended to purchase and gave them a card (reservation) Didn't do that at either of the two Apple stores I'm aware of (there are 5 in my area), or the three AT&T stores my friends went to. > – You overheard a conversation in another company? Good ears. Extra credit for "she". Grownup companies sometimes do things toge…

Tell the too bright astigmatism neighbor they're in luck, Apple offers an inverted colors function just for them.

Tell the font neighbor they're in luck, they can change both the face and the size.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

#185

Post by bane »

Terretta wrote: post #184
bane wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> – At the Apple store I was at, Apple staff greeted people entering the queue, asked them what they intended to purchase and gave them a card (reservation) Didn't do that at either of the two Apple stores I'm aware of (there are 5 in my area), or the three AT&T stores my friends went to. > – You overheard a conversation in another company? Good ears. Extra credit for "she". Grownup companies sometimes do things toge…

Tell the too bright astigmatism neighbor they're in luck, Apple offers an inverted colors function just for them. Tell the font neighbor they're in luck, they can change both the face and the size.

I will! Thanks!

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

#186

Post by adamlett »

yalogin wrote: post #179
adamlett wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Stock buybacks are just dead money That is an oversimplification. Apple has more money than it could possibly hope to reinvest in its core business. When that is the case, and when the stock is undervalued as is the case with Apple, stock buybacks are a great use of a company's cash.

The point behind stock buyback is simply to assert some confidence in the stock. Which means the market does not have confidence in it in the first place and probably has negative momentum. Most cases I have seen the market is correct. So even if the stock is bought back the increase in the price will be temporary as the negative momentum will surely vaporize the stock increase. It does not help anybody but investors…

> I have not seen a single stock buyback work

I haven't seen a single penguin in the wild, but that doesn't mean they don't exist ;)

Berkeshire Hathaway and Teledyne are two companies I know off that have had great success with stock buybacks.

Read this http://observer.com/2003/04/the-brain-behind-teledyne-a-grea... for a fascinating account of Teledyne's story.

Post reply on HN