The first circle is SteamOS, the second will likely to be the Steambox: http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/
There's also a third circle there...
SteamOS
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Re: SteamOS
#332This is effectively the software-only equivalent of a console launch. Is anyone else skeptical that they can motivate publishers to spend time/money porting their games to the Linux platform? Valve certainly has a better chance than most at pulling this off (and likely enough user/market data to make this seem like a valid investment) I am still super skeptical that these publishers are going to spend the time portin…
Honestly, I think that what Valve's going for here is they're trying to generate hype around a "new platform" that's actually an existing platform that's underutilized. Valve sees that there's a lot of what's effectively free RND work going into Linux as a platform for gaming, but that no one's taking advantage of that.
I think SteamOS is just going to be a highly tuned distro, since Valve really doesn't have the man power (or the internal motivation) to build an entirely new platform. However, they are trying to make it seem like a new and different platform so that the distributors and studios will take notice and say "Maybe we should develop for this." In doing so they'll be developing for Linux at large, they just might not know it.
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#333Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's either OpenSUSE or Ubuntu based.
Most likely ubuntu as that seems to be their defacto test platform. If you download steam from their site it comes packaged in a .deb format. They have pretty significant investments in that stack, and even list it as their favorite flavor: "Not running Linux yet? Ubuntu is our favorite version of Linux." (at the bottom of this page: http://store.steampowered.com/about/ )
I hope not. Going Ubuntu will mean (long term) Mir instead of Wayland, which will suck for other distributions and projects.
Re: SteamOS
#334the 3rd circle will be HL3
Re: SteamOS
#335Earlier quoted context omitted.
>1080p video is nowhere near 1458 bytes. It doesn't matter, that's the point. Your MTU is almost certainly 1500 bytes. You are sending 1500 byte packets at the most. That does not cause latency. If you want to argue that we're incapable of encoding or decoding video with acceptable latency go right ahead, but doing it in response to me correcting a misconception about network latency doesn't make much sense.
Having worked on the particular issue of streaming real-time video over wireless, I can say that the main issue is not link latency. The main lag comes from encoding/decoding. If you do it naively you encode frame-per-frame (encoding slices is more difficult), and the encoder does not only outputs iframes: you get partial frames that depend on both previous and future frames. Also the decoder does not always output f…
I would think that the people at Valve would be able to find a solution if anyone could... or are you claiming that this is a hard nut to crack and SteamOS's streaming solution won't end up being that great for high-resolution TVs?
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#336Earlier quoted context omitted.
From the iconography on the main page I'd guess the second announcement will be Steam hardware and the third one will be Half Life 3 (second circle indicates software product again?). Pure speculation on my side here. http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/
We know that the circle represents the SteamOS. The brackets int the second announcement must represent SteamBox. The third announcement has two circles with a plus sign in between which has to do something with connectivity to other players. Probably an equivalent of Xbox Live. ( My bet for the name is SteamPipe :) ) If Half-Life 3 was represented it would have to be a sign inside the circle as it is mainly a single…
Why is the circle off to one side of the box. Maybe I'm reading too much into it... but perhaps it could be a game controller and not a set-top box?
Re: SteamOS
#337This is effectively the software-only equivalent of a console launch. Is anyone else skeptical that they can motivate publishers to spend time/money porting their games to the Linux platform? Valve certainly has a better chance than most at pulling this off (and likely enough user/market data to make this seem like a valid investment) I am still super skeptical that these publishers are going to spend the time portin…
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#339Earlier quoted context omitted.
From the iconography on the main page I'd guess the second announcement will be Steam hardware and the third one will be Half Life 3 (second circle indicates software product again?). Pure speculation on my side here. http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/
We now know that the circle is SteamOS. Then, the second announcement would be "SteamOS in a box", and the iconography of the third announcement is "two SteamOS". This probably has something to do either with playing or sharing with friends, or more details on streaming games from another machine on the network. Come to think of it, Dota2 just mentioned recently an update that either just came out or is coming out in…
Steam doesn't properly support sharing games still. You can share your entire library and if you aren't playing anything at all, your friend can play a game from your library. Which you could do already, you just had to give your friend your password. Currently me and my brother share a library just fine by having one of us set steam to offline mode and then we can all play at the same time. It's less useful than the old behaviour, but without sharing your password. Oh and you can save in the cloud and earn achievements personally for yourself. Excuse me while I vomit.
Useless.
Re: SteamOS
#340Earlier quoted context omitted.
Valve has three announcements this week: http://kotaku.com/looks-like-well-hear-about-valves-new-hard... One of the announcements is widely believe to be the long-rumored Steam Box hardware...
Why would they announce the software separately from its #1 use case?
My thought is to temper disappointment. If they announced the steam box today and it ran a flavor of Linux it would be a disappointment. If we know about steam OS for 48 hours before the steam box announcement, we would all expect the steam box to run steam OS.