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Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

#52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As people have written a thousand times so far, the finger print isn't saved off device. Yes, it is saved. But if someone can get your device, they can also get your fingerprint (probably from the screen of the same device).

Since you are making this claim, I'll assume you've read the entire codebase of iOS. Is there anything stopping Apple from sending out an update that uploads the fingerprint?? Is there anything stopping the NSA from requiring Apple to do this?? It's not paranoia anymore.

From an Occam's Razor POV: it would be simpler for some agency to require a backdoor or transfer the character-based unlock, which they could apply whether the phone has a finger-reader or not. Since I haven't read the entire codebase of any of the operating systems I use, my paranoid self says "Expect root-ation!" while my normal self says "Get back to work, quit reading and writing internet commments!"

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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"phone" is a weird word to use for these devices. It's a computer in your pocket with instant access to the Internet that just haphazardly has a GSM module for legacy reasons.

Words change in definition. Very few people have a 'traditional' phone now, so the word would become useless if we didn't repurpose it.

What is wrong with calling them phones, exactly?

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

#54
I wouldn't be so quick to start doing the Apple victory dance. A lot of people waited to upgrade because the iPhone 5 was an iterative device and I have several anecdotal cases where people I knew said they would wait for a 5S.

Apple has painted itself somewhat into a corner now. Similar to Windows Service Packs, people are waiting for the second version of Apple products to get it 'right'.

This isn't to say they got it 'right' THIS time, either. It just is what it is.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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> Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend, Topping 5M For iPhone 5 Last Year Not a fair comparison, given that 5S + 5C is two models. It would be fairer to compare it to the sales of the 5 + 4S last year - which were probably not 9 million, but certainly more than 5 million.

I don't think that comparison would be completely apt. In the eyes of the public the different name and colours will stir up different buying emotions.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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"phone" is a weird word to use for these devices. It's a computer in your pocket with instant access to the Internet that just haphazardly has a GSM module for legacy reasons.

This is even more striking when my kids (3 & 5) ask for my phone: I'm watching a common word get completely changed for the next generation. Adults think "phone" as a verbal communication device, often having been overloaded with a stunning amount of alternate communications & computing power. Young kids see a "phone" as a visual toy and movie player, with data communications, and voice calls relegated to "yeah, you can do that too". "Phone" may very well largely replace "computer".

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

#57

Clearly they are going out of business. Not to mention only 200 Million devices running iOS7 so far.

Is anyone actually claiming that Apple are going out of business? This kind of reflexive defensiveness doesn't really help anything.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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Nothing moves the stock like a successful product. I am glad they did not bow to market pressure and announce more dividends or stock buybacks. Stock buybacks are just dead money. They should instead use that money on their business and not to satisfy investors over the short term.

Carl Icahn does not a market represent. Carl Icahn and his Twitter account represent himself (and potentially a growing disconnect with reality since his CompUSA days)
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