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Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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As people have written a thousand times so far, the finger print isn't saved off device. Yes, it is saved. But if someone can get your device, they can also get your fingerprint (probably from the screen of the same device).

Since you are making this claim, I'll assume you've read the entire codebase of iOS. Is there anything stopping Apple from sending out an update that uploads the fingerprint?? Is there anything stopping the NSA from requiring Apple to do this?? It's not paranoia anymore.

Is it possible for software to even read the fingerprint from the sensor, as opposed to only asking the sensor if this fingerprint matches a previous fingerprint????

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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I was in NY for vacation during the opening Friday and decided to head into a queue and line up for the 5s, suspecting that it may sell out quickly while also leveraging the pricing difference between Europe and USA. This was the first time that I lined up for any Apple launch (execept for the yearly WWDC waiting line of course), and it was overall a fun experience, not only because my girlfriend joined me there and…

The 5S is my first cell phone. I love being able to make calls from outside of my house and quickly and easily write "text" messages to my friends. I use to have to wait until I was at work or at home to make a phone call, but now I can do it from anywhere! I also love these app things, there is one for everything.

I also can't believe I can just connect to the internet from anywhere, and there are not even any tubes connected to my phone. How is that possible?

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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5S is much more in demand than the 5C. Pretty good, I say.

I’m honestly not too sure about that. Knowing the split between the two would be very interesting. I would imagine that they can make tons of 5c phones while the 5s may be more problematic. So the balance between the two may be more even than it seems. (Also, I would be really interested whether the 5c or 5s is the more high margin device. I could imagine that at least for now the 5c has a higher margin than the 5s –…

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Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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> Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend, Topping 5M For iPhone 5 Last Year

Not a fair comparison, given that 5S + 5C is two models.

It would be fairer to compare it to the sales of the 5 + 4S last year - which were probably not 9 million, but certainly more than 5 million.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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"phone" is a weird word to use for these devices. It's a computer in your pocket with instant access to the Internet that just haphazardly has a GSM module for legacy reasons.

They should call them communicators, like on Star Trek. Unfortunately that ship has sailed.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

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There you go, more proof that most people don't give a shit about surveillance, privacy and the lot. Here it is, the one device that can create the biggest fingerprint database in the world sold 9 million units in a couple of days. NSA must be jubilating. Very "forward thinking" indeed.

We've seen this for a couple of weeks now... The NSA can collect your finger print from the airport among other places already with technology specifically for this purpose.

How do they benefit from collecting your fingerprint from a phone?

What is it you think they can do with it that they cannot already do?

Tracking cookies from Facebook and Google can do far more to invade on your privacy.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 5s And iPhone 5c Sell 9M Units Over Opening Weekend

#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As people have written a thousand times so far, the finger print isn't saved off device. Yes, it is saved. But if someone can get your device, they can also get your fingerprint (probably from the screen of the same device).

Since you are making this claim, I'll assume you've read the entire codebase of iOS. Is there anything stopping Apple from sending out an update that uploads the fingerprint?? Is there anything stopping the NSA from requiring Apple to do this?? It's not paranoia anymore.

Given the fact that we've seen no evidence of such updates previously, and rather we've seen Apple take many steps to protect privacy and even seen NSA leaked slides detailing how they need access to PCs to read iPhone backups, I think it's extremely unlikely that they would ever take the risk of pushing an customer-wide software update.

If you are worried about being specifically targeted, you shouldn't use an off the shelf cellphone at all, and this discussion is moot.

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