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Ohio State University Gets Armored Military Vehicle, Dodges Questions About It

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Re: Ohio State University Gets Armored Military Vehicle, Dodges Questions About It

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I'd be interested to know more about the actual uses and capabilities of the vehicle. For example, the article states that the military has had problems with using the vehicles off-road and that the vehicle is prone to flip.

Elsewhere it is described as resistant to mines and ambush (how exactly?). I'm wondering what situation a university campus is likely to encounter where this vehicle would be superior to, say, a four-wheel drive.

Re: Ohio State University Gets Armored Military Vehicle, Dodges Questions About It

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I remember a discussion on HN where this came up. IIRC someone suggested that it was more about the price - for some reason there was / is a surplus of this kind of vehicle. Unfortunately I can't find the thread again.

I wouldn't call this a tank, though.

Re: Ohio State University Gets Armored Military Vehicle, Dodges Questions About It

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Colleges of OSU's size have had problems with riots after games and at the end of frat parties ( in fact, I believe OSU has had both, I know they have had football riots [0]). Vehicles, including police cars, get flipped and set on fire.

Since this is likely surplus military equipment from the US draw down in Iraq bought for cheap, perhaps it was a cheap way to get a vehicle for riot control?

Certainly, they aren't expected to drive across IEDs on campus.

Keep in mind, the police forces at large state schools are actual sworn law enforcement officers who carry guns, arrest people, and are responsible for crowd control. OSU is more than 56k people, well past the point where a town would have it's own police force.

Of course, this says nothing about whether any police forces should have this type of equipment.

[0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIHxDZwxloY

Re: Ohio State University Gets Armored Military Vehicle, Dodges Questions About It

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I remember a discussion on HN where this came up. IIRC someone suggested that it was more about the price - for some reason there was / is a surplus of this kind of vehicle. Unfortunately I can't find the thread again. I wouldn't call this a tank, though.

Might have been this one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6186569

Radley Balko discusses this at some length in "Rise of the Warrior Cop", cited in the article. Fascinating, scary read.

Re: Ohio State University Gets Armored Military Vehicle, Dodges Questions About It

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at reddit when this showed up weeks ago, ppl in the military were commenting how driving those are the worst thing they did on service. that its dangerously jumpy to the point they would question driving over speed bumps or crosing over sidewalks.

seems that some company developed something for military no-price-limits market that turned out so bad that they started a bargain sale to civilians.

ohio was just the first sucker that had to spend last minute budget to not lose it next year. and knowing how prevalent is this, expect a lot more to pop up.

Re: Ohio State University Gets Armored Military Vehicle, Dodges Questions About It

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Colleges of OSU's size have had problems with riots after games and at the end of frat parties ( in fact, I believe OSU has had both, I know they have had football riots [0]). Vehicles, including police cars, get flipped and set on fire. Since this is likely surplus military equipment from the US draw down in Iraq bought for cheap, perhaps it was a cheap way to get a vehicle for riot control? Certainly, they aren't e…

when 5+ people are going to pacifically hold signs in some park they have to inform the authorities so they can provide public "protection".

why a game of that proportions is different? i take it that more than 5 people are guaranteed to show up.

Re: Ohio State University Gets Armored Military Vehicle, Dodges Questions About It

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Riots after Ohio State/Michigan game get pretty intense, there's usually a fleet of helicopters out already.

Why does campus security have to deal with that? If it's really as bad as you claim, shouldn't it be up to the state or city police departments to deal with.
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