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I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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post #32

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Being hipster is just trying to look cool for doing everything that isn't actually cool. Being geek is about doing things that you like that just happen to be geeky.

It's very presumptuous of you to assume that "hipsters" don't actually enjoy the things they do.

Of course they don't like it, if they actually liked what they were doing it wouldn't be ironic!

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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post #38

NEWSFLASH: If you're doing something specifically to get attention, it's possible the attention you get might not be to your liking. (Though I agree people should be more open to people doing fun performance-ish stuff like this, it does not mean a performer is entitled to receive only positive reactions.)

"Hate" is a proper subset of "negative reactions".

No subset of negative reactions is proper.

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Fedoras come off well with the right outfit, sure. Most fedora-wearing nerds don't get that right. If you do, more power to you.

Yeah, wearing a beat-up $10 fedora with a T-shirt and jeans is not a great fashion decision. (But note that "poor fashion decisions" does not mean "disgusting, reprehensible goblin," despite the usual fashionista hyperbole.) I have a nice, properly-fitted felt fedora that I try to keep in good shape, and I wear it with a nice button-down and slacks at a bare minimum, usually a tie and sometimes a full suit. I've had…

I agree that poor fashion sense != terrible person. But clarify this for me: fedora aside, your standard dress is a button-down with a tie, but usually no suit jacket?

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Hipster-hate strikes me as just another thinly veiled form of bullying, and it's interesting to see how readily internet nerds - the people who are disproportionately to have been bullied in the past - engage in it. Look! He's different! Let's make assumptions about his motivations and get him! It's also interesting to see how many times Reddit (and other communities) fly into a rage-fest because of lack of context,…

Author summarizes the rage quite well: "The reaction, then, had nothing to do with hipsters. It was a hatred of people that need to stand out for standing-out's sake. That realization was at once positive and negative—people didn't hate me because I was a hipster, they hated me because I looked like I was nakedly desperate for attention, and had gone about that attention-grabbing by glomming on to marginalized trends…

I was really impressed by that observation, and I thought that the article was going to turn in a pleasant way that I wasn't expecting. Sadly, instead of wondering why someone of a different perspective could think that of him, he continues:

"The experience of being labeled and then cast aside made me realize that what many people call 'hipsterism' or, what they perceive as a slavish devotion to irony, are often in fact just forms of extreme, radical sincerity."

So in the end, they hate us for our freedom. They criticise you because they are jealous of you, like mom said. I don't understand this lack of self-awareness in a generation and class so obsessed with self-cataloging.

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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The other funny thing is that there's a violent dislike of mainstream media on websites such as Reddit, and constant criticism when news stations take things out of context. Then they do things like this themselves on a daily basis!

^People write this comment on Reddit a lot. The one I'm about to write, they also write this one too. You can't talk about Reddit as a hivemind, because it isn't one person, or even a definite collective of people. The people who take things out of context, and the people who call them out, are different sets of people. If Reddit seems to have multiple personalities, it's because... well, it does.

Can we make a generalisation of reddit when something is the top story on the whole site, and the majority of highly upvoted comments make the same point?

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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"Hate" is a proper subset of "negative reactions".

No subset of negative reactions is proper.

Your parent used an uncommon meaning of a word, and you reinterpreted it with the most common meaning! How clever of you!

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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^People write this comment on Reddit a lot. The one I'm about to write, they also write this one too. You can't talk about Reddit as a hivemind, because it isn't one person, or even a definite collective of people. The people who take things out of context, and the people who call them out, are different sets of people. If Reddit seems to have multiple personalities, it's because... well, it does.

Can we make a generalisation of reddit when something is the top story on the whole site, and the majority of highly upvoted comments make the same point?

This is different to HN and most other internet forums?

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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post #210

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On the other hand, I have noticed that people over thirty are willing to label people under twenty-five as functionally insane, which strikes me as a bit of an internal contradiction in your post.

Wait until you get here, you'll find the young'uns unbearable to be around too. Just seems to happen...

I'm sure that'll happen, as I have no reason to believe I'm better than anyone else. I hope I'll have the self-awareness not to judge them for judging people, though, or at least to do it in a more measured fashion.

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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post #31

Tangentially related, things like this are why I have not stopped wearing my fedora (in appropriate situations, with appropriate outfits). Dear Internet Fashionistas: You've decided that fedoras and suspenders are the mark of a horrible person. Your opinions have no connection to reality. Over here in the real world, I look good. When I come back to the bar the next day to pick up my credit card, and the bouncer reme…

This and the obsession with t-shirts reminds me as to why I never take fashion advice from HN.

Yeah, that, and this weird obsession people have with pants. Who wears pants anymore?
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