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Introducing Trello Gold

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Re: Introducing Trello Gold

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Post by notdrunkatall »

ruswick wrote: post #68
dpcan wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I upgraded the instant I saw it for 2 reasons: 1) I've been wanting a way to PAY for this service for a long time now so I know it's there year after year. I'm super happy to give them $5 per month. 2) I wanted pretty backgrounds. I am what I am.

I've never understood the pure desire to give away one's money. In my book, parting with money is a significant thing that only comes after careful consideration and knowledge of clear benefits. Even then, I'm never happy to get rid of my money. The unpleasantness of giving up my money is simply outweighed by the utility of the thing I'm buying. What is the reasoning as to why one would voluntarily give money when no…

If I helped you out in some way every month, month after month, week after week, day after day, you would presumably eventually feel like you were indebted to me in some way, correct? If I then gave you the opportunity to do something for me, you would gladly do so, especially if I were still doing something for you that was worth more to you than what you were doing for me, correct? Same principle.

Re: Introducing Trello Gold

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Post by steve19 »

ruswick wrote: post #68
dpcan wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I upgraded the instant I saw it for 2 reasons: 1) I've been wanting a way to PAY for this service for a long time now so I know it's there year after year. I'm super happy to give them $5 per month. 2) I wanted pretty backgrounds. I am what I am.

I've never understood the pure desire to give away one's money. In my book, parting with money is a significant thing that only comes after careful consideration and knowledge of clear benefits. Even then, I'm never happy to get rid of my money. The unpleasantness of giving up my money is simply outweighed by the utility of the thing I'm buying. What is the reasoning as to why one would voluntarily give money when no…

Take a look at Google Reader. If they had let me pay for it I would have. They did not want my money and now it is gone.

I am rational consumer. I only pay to get something in return. Often I pay because I want to know someone is employed to keep updating the service or product. I don't really care if other people are freeloading.

Re: Introducing Trello Gold

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Post by spolsky »

weisser wrote: post #65
giovannibajo1 wrote: post #61

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Mind elaborating on specific details/workflow that you find superior in Asana compared to Trello?

Sure. The most obvious one is that you can't filter by user (or at least it wasn't readily apparent that you could). I also think the keyboard shortcuts on Asana are faster and more intuitive. Don't get me wrong - I love Trello's layout and Kanban - but it feels very light in comparison to Asana (which some probably consider a positive).

You can filter by user in Trello... even using keyboard shortcuts! It's right on the Filter menu, and the handy "q" keyboard shortcut filters to your own cards.

Re: Introducing Trello Gold

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Post by judofyr »

steve19 wrote: post #72
ruswick wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never understood the pure desire to give away one's money. In my book, parting with money is a significant thing that only comes after careful consideration and knowledge of clear benefits. Even then, I'm never happy to get rid of my money. The unpleasantness of giving up my money is simply outweighed by the utility of the thing I'm buying. What is the reasoning as to why one would voluntarily give money when no…

Take a look at Google Reader. If they had let me pay for it I would have. They did not want my money and now it is gone. I am rational consumer. I only pay to get something in return. Often I pay because I want to know someone is employed to keep updating the service or product. I don't really care if other people are freeloading.

Paid products gets cancelled as well.

Re: Introducing Trello Gold

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Post by morgante »

Though it's not April 1, I thought this must be a joke.

Not because these features don't make sense. They do. I know plenty of people who would love them.

Except those aren't the people who would pay for them.

Simply put, the sort of people who use emojis are definitely not the sort of people who pay for productivity software. Nerds (and generally "professionals") will pay for a Trello board. But nerds don't particularly like stickers.

Normals love stickers, but barely ever pay for anything—least of all subscription web services. Even today, I just don't see many teenage girls willing to toss $5 at a web productivity board.

It's just a sad and bizarre case of product-market mismatch.

Re: Introducing Trello Gold

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Post by thomasd »

spolsky wrote: post #44
thomasd wrote: post #38

My first reaction was just like everyone else's. I thought this is a joke. "After just about every chat app minus WhatsApp have added stickers, plus the recent inclusion of them in Path, now a productivity app?" But it actually make a lot of sense. I think if you're already a Trello users, you're not the target market for this. Trello can be used in small families, among friends to help arrange things. Read: http://3…

[trello co-creator, here] Definitely not a joke :) But also not something you need to buy. We're working very hard to make sure everybody understands that Trello is free and will always be free. With that, we have to make money to support the development and servers. Our ultimate goal is that the 1% of people who get the most value out of Trello will pay us, and that will collectively bring in enough money to pay for…

Hah it sounds like you guys had a lot of fun working on Trello Gold, building the feature that everyone seems to mock just for the fun of it.

Re: Introducing Trello Gold

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Post by rwallace »

davidjgraph wrote: post #2

Well, this is awkward. Take a tool where I'd define two of its key points as being clean and simple (to look at and use), then charge money to add two fairly random features that mess up the look.

The real point is that it gives people who have money reason and excuse to pay for a tool they find useful and enjoyable. It doesn't really matter if the cat pictures in themselves are actually useful.

Re: Introducing Trello Gold

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Post by ThinkEzy »

spolsky wrote: post #44
thomasd wrote: post #38

My first reaction was just like everyone else's. I thought this is a joke. "After just about every chat app minus WhatsApp have added stickers, plus the recent inclusion of them in Path, now a productivity app?" But it actually make a lot of sense. I think if you're already a Trello users, you're not the target market for this. Trello can be used in small families, among friends to help arrange things. Read: http://3…

[trello co-creator, here] Definitely not a joke :) But also not something you need to buy. We're working very hard to make sure everybody understands that Trello is free and will always be free. With that, we have to make money to support the development and servers. Our ultimate goal is that the 1% of people who get the most value out of Trello will pay us, and that will collectively bring in enough money to pay for…

Why is the idiom of offering it for free (100% that is) and then look out for supporting the development? How can you honestly do both? Instead, place it for 14 day trial, offer the entire thing cheaper by 99% (leave 1% fan club away), and support both the causes sufficiently.

Re: Introducing Trello Gold

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Post by victorf »

cgag wrote: post #62
tedunangst wrote: post #57

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That's Trello Platinum, coming soon. Somebody pays $5 to add stickers to your board, then you pay $5 more to take them away.

That's sort of how the SomethingAwful forums work. You spend 5 bucks to buy someone an insulting avatar, they pay 5 bucks to remove it.

How nostalgic! My favorite was one user started a thread for pictures you find really unsettling, his example was a woman photoshopped to have four eyes and two mouths. By the time I started reading it, his avatar had already been changed to that exact picture, with the caption "sorry".

That was a cool monetization system. I remember you could also buy custom emojis, which would be fun for a while and then absolutely reviled :awesome:.

Re: Introducing Trello Gold

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Post by ibstudios »

weisser wrote: post #51

I find Trello very tough to use with a team but great for keeping track of individual process. Asana (while very different) seems to work better with our team of 5. I was hoping Trello Gold would have offered the things that keep us from using Trello in the first place because I really do like the the Kanban method.

I wrote a site called reportfortrello.com where you can see each member's time and how many tasks they worked on. I hope you try it before giving up on Trello.
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