Web development in C: Crazy?

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Post by dysoco » Wed, Sep 18, 2013, 1:18 AM UTC

Re: Web development in C: Crazy?

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Post by noonespecial » Wed, Sep 18, 2013, 2:18 AM UTC

I wrote a little backend section in C once to do a FFT on some data and it ended up being 7 times faster or so than the perl the rest of the backed was written in. It made sense there.

Developing a whole CRUD app in C however? Seems like it would feel like digging a swimming pool with a spoon.

Re: Web development in C: Crazy?

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Post by damian2000 » Wed, Sep 18, 2013, 2:25 AM UTC

Might anyone looking for a speedup akin to C do better to look at Go instead?

Re: Web development in C: Crazy?

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Post by Figs » Wed, Sep 18, 2013, 2:27 AM UTC

A lot of embedded systems have web configuration interfaces written in C. For example, your wireless router's configuration page is probably written in C.

Re: Web development in C: Crazy?

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Post by jerf » Wed, Sep 18, 2013, 2:30 AM UTC

So, people can't hardly write safe web apps in PHP without spraying XSS and auth bypasses and arbitrary shell executions and arbitrary SQL injections everywhere, and you also want to hand the attackers the ability to segfault your server or possibly even straight-up run arbitrary code?

Anyone smart enough to truly safely code a website in C is smart enough to learn a language to create that website which doesn't get on all fours and beg to be owned.

Yes, I mean that 100% seriously. If you're smart enough to safely write that C code, you won't. If you aren't smart enough to write that C code safely... and the first clue that you aren't is that you think that you are... you don't stand a chance. It's suicidal.

Re: Web development in C: Crazy?

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Post by rjzzleep » Wed, Sep 18, 2013, 2:30 AM UTC

You think? Cpoll[1] is actually on top of the techempower web framework benchmark [2]

onion to be honest looks more like a http server generation framework. similar to what rob fitzpatrick was talking about when he was advocating gos net/http. but then again what do i know i haven't tried any of them.

Personally, even though ruby makes my salary I like C. Always did. Treefrog looks the most like a modern web framework to me. [3]

[1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/cpollcppsp/

[2] http://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/

[3] http://www.treefrogframework.org/documents/tutorial

Re: Web development in C: Crazy?

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Post by eru » Wed, Sep 18, 2013, 2:40 AM UTC

damian2000 wrote: post #3

Might anyone looking for a speedup akin to C do better to look at Go instead?

Or Haskell.

Re: Web development in C: Crazy?

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Post by bhauer » Wed, Sep 18, 2013, 2:43 AM UTC

rjzzleep wrote: post #6

You think? Cpoll[1] is actually on top of the techempower web framework benchmark [2] onion to be honest looks more like a http server generation framework. similar to what rob fitzpatrick was talking about when he was advocating gos net/http. but then again what do i know i haven't tried any of them. Personally, even though ruby makes my salary I like C. Always did. Treefrog looks the most like a modern web framewor…

Treefrog is coming in Round 7 [1]. (And sorry, we still don't have an ETA for Round 7 but we are hoping for this month.)

[1] https://github.com/TechEmpower/FrameworkBenchmarks/pull/283

Re: Web development in C: Crazy?

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Post by jaredsohn » Wed, Sep 18, 2013, 2:50 AM UTC

I've always found it interesting that OkCupid is built with C++, although they started it before 2001. http://www.okcupid.com/about/technology

Re: Web development in C: Crazy?

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Post by frozenport » Wed, Sep 18, 2013, 2:54 AM UTC

damian2000 wrote: post #3

Might anyone looking for a speedup akin to C do better to look at Go instead?

yes