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Dear USA, my data has left your building

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Re: Dear USA, my data has left your building

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Post by stekoz »

rsync wrote: post #13

Obviously we[1] sympathize with this, since we've been running a swiss location since 2006 - one that has become increasingly busy in the last 3-4 months. However, I personally don't store my data there - even though I am deeply disturbed by the recent revelations and invoke all manner of security precautions in my own digital life. First of all, it appears that intra-US Internet traffic is subject to less scrutiny a…

Re: other global "observers", I think most of us are assuming that the NSA is the most capable and powerful among them. While in general this may be true, I wonder how much we don't know we don't know about other agencies.

Re: Dear USA, my data has left your building

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Post by frank_boyd »

> On my Android telephone (whoops…) I am using the Kaiten IMAP client.

Check out: http://www.ubuntu.com/phone

Devices supported: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices

Currently, the Galaxy Nexus seems to be the best option; see its hardware support progress here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArLs7UPtu-hJdDZ... (column "Maguro")

Re: Dear USA, my data has left your building

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Post by skrause »

nileshtrivedi wrote: post #44

I recently deleted my Google+ profile. I have to say that Google is among the nice ones out there. They have a no-nonsense process with tools in place to export the data and delete accounts. Facebook/Quora make it really difficult to delete your data. It's ironic that it's easier to leave the good corporations than the bad ones.

Facebook doesn't really make it difficult either: https://www.facebook.com/help/delete_account

Re: Dear USA, my data has left your building

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Post by skrause »

sdoering wrote: post #37
dshep wrote: post #22

Can anyone recommend a linux VPS host outside the US as an alternative to Linode or Digitalocean?

If you are speaking German (site is in German) you could try http://uberspace.de . I am one happy customer of these guys.

I'm also a happy Uberspace user, but they don't offer any VPS. They're more like a standard webhosting provider with shell access.

Re: Dear USA, my data has left your building

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Post by josefresco »

cpbotha wrote: post #15
mswe wrote: post #6

Dear cpbotha, You can run, but you can't hide. - USA

Dear USA, You are probably correct. My point is that I can make it slightly more complicated for you to sniff around in my data, and that was the whole point of this move. If more people do this, it will get progressively harder for you to do your mass surveillance job as you do it now. I'm sorry I had to leave you, cpbotha

If you think the USA is alone in their desire to surveille you're going to have a rough time around the world. The USA had the means, but the will is there worldwide.

Re: Dear USA, my data has left your building

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Post by ryanSrich »

scrrr wrote: post #26

I suspected there was going to be a mass exodus. NSA basically killed cloud-computing. I don't think it will come back soon. And while on the subject, consider selling your Microsoft stock. How many enterprise customers will choose Microsoft products again after 2013?

For who? None of our customers have even voiced concern over the NSA let alone foot the bill to migrate their data to the eu. I think HN in particular has tunnel vision over this situation.

Unless shown otherwise I'd warrant a guess that outside the tech community the overwhelming majority or people and businesses don't care about what the NSA does.

Re: Dear USA, my data has left your building

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Post by Munksgaard »

dshep wrote: post #22

Can anyone recommend a linux VPS host outside the US as an alternative to Linode or Digitalocean?

I've been trying out http://www.exoscale.ch , and while slightly more pricy than similar offers, they seem to offer a pretty good service, with high focus on privacy and security. Also, they're hosted in Switzerland.

Re: Dear USA, my data has left your building

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Post by plg »

"My webhoster (WebFaction) receives mail for all my domains. My Synology retrieves mail every 5 minutes via POP (you can set this up via Roundcube on the Synology) and deletes it from WebFaction."

but even if you can delete your mail from your mailhost after downloading it to your private machine, isn't the point that the NSA probably collected the email before it even hit your mailhost?

Re: Dear USA, my data has left your building

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Post by ryanSrich »

techsupporter wrote: post #41
scrrr wrote: post #26

I suspected there was going to be a mass exodus. NSA basically killed cloud-computing. I don't think it will come back soon. And while on the subject, consider selling your Microsoft stock. How many enterprise customers will choose Microsoft products again after 2013?

I'm curious to know why you advocated just selling Microsoft stock when Google and Amazon and IBM also have cloud computing/services businesses. Will they not be affected?

Microsoft's not included in the silivon valley good ol' boys club.
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