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Re: FreeBSD 10.0 Alpha 1 now available

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I run BSD on all of my desktop boxes, but I have not found any way to run it on a laptop. It just doesn't seem feasible; there are just so many mobile drivers that are missing. Has anyone else had any luck with getting FreeBSD to work on a laptop, or is Linux still the de-facto?

I had FreeBSD running on my old Dell Studio 1737. It took some effort but most of the linux drivers will work with BSD if you edit the source and recompile.

Re: FreeBSD 10.0 Alpha 1 now available

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post #20

I run BSD on all of my desktop boxes, but I have not found any way to run it on a laptop. It just doesn't seem feasible; there are just so many mobile drivers that are missing. Has anyone else had any luck with getting FreeBSD to work on a laptop, or is Linux still the de-facto?

A significant part of U.S. government uses FreeBSD (or derivation) - and they have laptops.

Re: FreeBSD 10.0 Alpha 1 now available

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post #20

I run BSD on all of my desktop boxes, but I have not found any way to run it on a laptop. It just doesn't seem feasible; there are just so many mobile drivers that are missing. Has anyone else had any luck with getting FreeBSD to work on a laptop, or is Linux still the de-facto?

I had FreeBSD running on my old Dell Studio 1737. It took some effort but most of the linux drivers will work with BSD if you edit the source and recompile.

Any links? If not, a short anecdote? How is power management and suspend?

Re: FreeBSD 10.0 Alpha 1 now available

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post #20

I run BSD on all of my desktop boxes, but I have not found any way to run it on a laptop. It just doesn't seem feasible; there are just so many mobile drivers that are missing. Has anyone else had any luck with getting FreeBSD to work on a laptop, or is Linux still the de-facto?

I use FreeBSD 9.2 on a U56E-BBL5 and it runs great!

Intel Graphics work great (wiki.freebsd.org/Intel_GPU) I have great wireless support for my Intel Centrino 6235

Ports also provides all the applications I could ever need (Emacs, Vim, FireFox, Chromium, SBCL, Chicken, MPD etc..)

I really love running FreeBSD on my laptop, I am a big tinkerer and this is the first time I have gotten a setup that feels right

Re: FreeBSD 10.0 Alpha 1 now available

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right but if you are downloading an ISO you still have to manually verify it correct?

yes but a one time md5 of an iso is far less strenuous than manually checking the provenance of 200 tarballs to build say X. there is a new package management system similar to apt-get but it's far rarer to see it used than ports I really like ports - as much for the knowledge that I have all the right header files.

When do you have to check the provenance of 200 tarballs to install X? If you install from an ISO, you can install the ports from there too and you have checksums which are automatically checked, right? So if you do cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4; make install it will automatically check all of the checksums right?

Re: FreeBSD 10.0 Alpha 1 now available

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quick summary for the impatient: - drop GCC for CLANG. - introduce VPS (more virtualised approach to jails) - introduce bhyve (native hypervisor on common standards) - replace BIND - Can be run on raspberry pi - major speed ups in SMP, and networking FreeBSD Is taking a fairly big leap forward in its sweet spot of the workhorse of the data farm. BSD has always had great jails virtualisation support (it's what LXC or…

FreeBSD 10 is also going to have much-improved support for Xen [1][2] and newly-added support for Hyper-V [3]. I'd love to see AWS and Azure support first-class FreeBSD instances. (You can currently run FreeBSD instances using cperciva's AMIs [4], but that's not the same as Amazon supporting FreeBSD in the same way they support Linux). [1]: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-xen/2013-June/001... [2]: http://w…

agreed with AWS and freebsd. although there is hardly the demand - each year I have a debate whether to forego BSD entirely (especially on the desktop) but its just that too good to lose.

it looks like I'm going to get saltstack working with VpS and keep with Rackspace :-)

Re: FreeBSD 10.0 Alpha 1 now available

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post #20

I run BSD on all of my desktop boxes, but I have not found any way to run it on a laptop. It just doesn't seem feasible; there are just so many mobile drivers that are missing. Has anyone else had any luck with getting FreeBSD to work on a laptop, or is Linux still the de-facto?

I have used BSD on all my laptops for the past eight ? years. wifi is my biggest bugbear but I fear I generally ignore anything that is not germane to the basics.

seriously want a write up?

Re: FreeBSD 10.0 Alpha 1 now available

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yes but a one time md5 of an iso is far less strenuous than manually checking the provenance of 200 tarballs to build say X. there is a new package management system similar to apt-get but it's far rarer to see it used than ports I really like ports - as much for the knowledge that I have all the right header files.

When do you have to check the provenance of 200 tarballs to install X? If you install from an ISO, you can install the ports from there too and you have checksums which are automatically checked, right? So if you do cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4; make install it will automatically check all of the checksums right?

err, maybe. I don't think I have ever installed x from pkgs on cd. I always download thru ports - the 200 tarballs was what ports does for me (downloads and verifies md5) so if I did not use ports and I did build from source I would manually download and verify. I don't think anyone would ever do that admittedly.

Re: FreeBSD 10.0 Alpha 1 now available

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The What's New for FreeBSD 10 wiki page[1] linked in the reply has more details (though it doesn't necessarily indicate what will make the cut). The interesting bits to me are the merging of VPS support[2] which, last I read was a patchset against the 7 or 8 kernel. The seamless migration of virtualized envs seemed like a pipe dream at the time, I can't wait to play around with it (if it makes the cut). Not to mentio…

it's likely to make the cut, given that it's pretty damned stable.

virio will be huge.

Re: FreeBSD 10.0 Alpha 1 now available

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quick summary for the impatient: - drop GCC for CLANG. - introduce VPS (more virtualised approach to jails) - introduce bhyve (native hypervisor on common standards) - replace BIND - Can be run on raspberry pi - major speed ups in SMP, and networking FreeBSD Is taking a fairly big leap forward in its sweet spot of the workhorse of the data farm. BSD has always had great jails virtualisation support (it's what LXC or…

FreeBSD 10 is also going to have much-improved support for Xen [1][2] and newly-added support for Hyper-V [3]. I'd love to see AWS and Azure support first-class FreeBSD instances. (You can currently run FreeBSD instances using cperciva's AMIs [4], but that's not the same as Amazon supporting FreeBSD in the same way they support Linux). [1]: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-xen/2013-June/001... [2]: http://w…

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edit: we're about to launch pfSense on EC2, too.

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