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Google Might Have Walked Into A Nestle Boycott Problem With Android KitKat

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Re: Google Might Have Walked Into A Nestle Boycott Problem With Android KitKat

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Yes, how evil Apple and Google are. Giving jobs to thousands of people, creating new billion dollar markets, creating products billions of people love to use and buy. Evil indeed. How dare they really?

Despite the ghost of Godwin's law, it's worth pointing out that your reasoning works almost as well, with only minor changes, if you replace "Apple and Google" with the Nazi party. Someone can do good stuff and still be evil to the bone. (No, I'm not implying Apple or Google are anywhere in the same ballpark as the nazis; for that matter, I don't Apple or Google are evil, even if there are practices I disagree with)

I don't think it's possible to be as successful and big as Google and Apple and not do practices that some people will disagree with, I mean when their actions affect billions of people, it's obvious that it is simply impossible not to anger anyone. In fact, the only way not to offend anyone in business is probably by not doing any business at all.

Re: Google Might Have Walked Into A Nestle Boycott Problem With Android KitKat

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Then there is the whole issue of Nestle and water rights. it is not just about breast feeding: http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-privatisation-of-water-nest...

Hmm, a typical one-sided rant that conveniently forgets to actually cite any sources. Go watch the original video - it's freely available on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyAzxmN2s0w I watched it, and he seems to be basically saying that water should have a value or price. And that for those who don't have access to it, we need to take steps to address that. I don't see anything controversial about that - f…

I think the part people take issue with is the idea that water supplies should be privatised. In the video you linked he says that "declaring water as a public right [...] that's an extreme solution". He doesn't say we should steal 3rd world contries' water, but he is clearly in favour of the water supply becoming property of a multi-national like Nestle, rather than managed by the government (i.e. property of the people).

From the Nestle website you linked and subsequent articles and interviews Brabeck seems to have backtracked and now states he believes a minimum amount of water is a human right. He still wants water privatisation though, and must have his shareholders first in mind as CEO of Nestle, not public interest.

Re: Google Might Have Walked Into A Nestle Boycott Problem With Android KitKat

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It's worth also remembering that the Nestlé CEO declared that OGM food is healthy, water is not a human right and we should all work more, not less: http://youtu.be/SEFL8ElXHaU

Err, no he didn't. Did you actually look at the link you posted? Or did you just look at the title, and hope nobody would watch it? First, he claimed that in 15 years of eating GM food in the US, there haven't been any reported illness. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. Now, you might think there could be issues down the track, sure - and that may be your informed medical opinion. But nothing he stated is actuall…

There is an argument for his view on water to avoid the 'tragedy of the commons' problem. But replying to multiple comments with the same reasoning is tantamount to shouting your point.

Re: Google Might Have Walked Into A Nestle Boycott Problem With Android KitKat

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Google literally didn't do anything evil by releasing an update to Android with the codename same as a popular chocolate product, which is owned by a company with unethical practices. This is not evil unless you specifically redefine a meaning of the word. Oxford dictionary evil noun profound immorality and wickedness, especially when regarded as a supernatural force: his struggle against the forces of evil a manifes…

Playing Devil's advocate, one could make an argument that by promoting Nestle, they are accomplices in their harmful (and often illegal) activities. Personally I don't think Google is any more guilty than any other company where Nestle has advertised on, including TV channels or newspapers, but I do think the world would be a better place if companies with Nestle's track record were to be ostracized by both consumers…

Yeah, the world really would be a better place. But it is nash equilimbrium all over again and its absolutely pointless to shame one of the players(corporation or consumer). The only effectively viable path to making a world a better place is to change the rules of the game.

Re: Google Might Have Walked Into A Nestle Boycott Problem With Android KitKat

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Google really didn't think this one through. I don't see how any possible marketing 'synergies' can overcome the vague confusion that some people will have when confronted with the word KitKat and its associated Nestle registered trademark and the very real opinions that Nestle does not behave ethically as a company. Maybe they couldn't think of anything else sweet that started with K but don't I think they've come t…

It's ridiculous on the face of it that this was some whimsical choice. A whimsical choice wouldn't have chosen a major brand.

When I first heard of it, the thoughts through my head were "sellout" and "product placement"… in contrast to say, OSX or Windows project names like Tiger, Longhorn, Mohave, etc. which really don't reference something that can be nothing other than an artificial manufactured product.

What the hell was wrong with Key Lime Pie?

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