There Is No Homework In Finland
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There Is No Homework In Finland
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#2Finland ≠ Sweden
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#3Finland ≠ Sweden
Thanks for the heads up. Apparently I can't read.
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#4I am not sure what to make of this:
1. Sure high school graduation rates are higher in Finland than in the U.S., can you actually compare those across the board? Is what a high schooler studies in Finland the same as what they study in the U.S.? Maybe there are other societal issues why people drop out in the U.S. compared to Finland which I understand has a homogenous largely white population.
2. So there is no homework in Sweden? So fucking what? There is lots of homework in India and China. If I understand correctly, those guys are supposed to be eating our lunch?
3. The teachers have masters degrees; yet it is not clear to me how adding two more years of education is going to magically transform our education system?
4. The only thing that seems intriguing to me is individual attention. Good classroom ratios. Yet is that feasible to scale up in the U.S.?
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#5Interesting about the Master's Degree. In the U.S. teacher education seems unrelated to performance, including Master's Degrees. Which isn't how it should be. It makes me wonder if one of our great flaws here is in how we teach teachers.
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#6Except you read all the comments in that article and the people from Finland all say they do have homework.
While not as linkbaity perhaps it should be retitled, "Finland has an excellent education system."
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#7I am not sure what to make of this: 1. Sure high school graduation rates are higher in Finland than in the U.S., can you actually compare those across the board? Is what a high schooler studies in Finland the same as what they study in the U.S.? Maybe there are other societal issues why people drop out in the U.S. compared to Finland which I understand has a homogenous largely white population. 2. So there is no home…
1. Since Finland students only get one standardized test, it's very difficult to determine. I have no idea why that's listed as a positive thing in the graphic; you can't improve what you don't measure!
2. According to the article, Finland's average PISA scores are higher than Hong Kong or Japan.
3 & 4. Since the degrees are subsidized by the sate, there are a lot more people getting them. This helps recruit enough teachers to maintain the 12:1 student/teacher ratio.
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#8In Finland, teachers are selected from the top 10% of college graduates.[1]
In the US, nearly half of all new teachers come from the bottom third of college graduates.[2]
Homework or no homework, Finnish students are learning directly from -- and personally interacting with -- some of the brightest minds in their country, every day.
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[1] http://www.smithsonianmag.com/people-places/Why-Are-Finlands...
[2] http://www.mckinseyonsociety.com/downloads/reports/Education...
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#9I am not sure what to make of this: 1. Sure high school graduation rates are higher in Finland than in the U.S., can you actually compare those across the board? Is what a high schooler studies in Finland the same as what they study in the U.S.? Maybe there are other societal issues why people drop out in the U.S. compared to Finland which I understand has a homogenous largely white population. 2. So there is no home…
Finland's success in Pisa scores is the reason that these practices are highlighted. Although homogenous population plays a role, Finnish scores are constantly better than almost equally homogenous Norway.
However, the true reason behind the success of Finnish school system is yet unclear. One thing that certainly plays an important role is that teacher as a profession has traditionally been highly regarded in Finnish society, and it's not trivial to get in to universities to study teaching.
There are other interesting aspects, for example does the language play a role: Finland has an affluent Swedish-speaking minority. There a separate schools for Swedish speakers, but they follow similar practices as the rest of the Finnish schooling system. However, for some odd reason doesn't fare as well in Pisa tests than Finnish speaking students, despite that family background of Swedish speakers have traditionally been more stable.
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#10According to the article, 7% of Finnish children don't graduate high school, compared to 25% of US children.
22% of US children live in poverty. 4% of Finnish children live in poverty.[1]
Strange.
Furthermore, it's my personal policy that anyone who creates an infographic with a bar graph that starts at 520 and goes up to 570 should be ignored. Either they are trying to intentionally skew interpretation of the data by presenting it in a misleading fashion, or they don't know enough about mathematics to understand why their graph is misleading. Neither one presents a reliable source.
[1]http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Finland/United-States/Ec...