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Re: Facebook deletes Social Fixer page, blocks page admins

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Post by wutbrodo » Thu, Sep 12, 2013, 5:09 PM UTC

Karunamon wrote: post #14

res0nat0r wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is against the Facebook TOS, unfortunately shouldn't we be telling him "don't violate Facebook's TOS without expecting repercussions?"

The TOS is not above criticism or complaint, and I for one am tired of people being shouted down because they dared take issue with draconian policies.

I tend to have a lot of problems with the way Facebook operates (mostly involving how they treat their users), but they seem pretty reasonable in this case. How is it draconian to not allow a Page on your platform that (among other things) blocks your source of revenue? (social fixer allows blocking Facebook ads)

Re: Facebook deletes Social Fixer page, blocks page admins

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Post by joeblau » Thu, Sep 12, 2013, 5:10 PM UTC

agilord wrote: post #3

From the FAQ: "Can Social Fixer hide the Sponsored ads? Yes, just click on the "X" in the upper right of the box, and all boxes with the same title will be hidden every time you load a page." There is a lesson here somewhere...

That right there seems like reason enough for $FB to remove the application.

Re: Facebook deletes Social Fixer page, blocks page admins

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Post by twigger » Thu, Sep 12, 2013, 5:12 PM UTC

sp332 wrote: post #15

alyandon wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does that mean https://www.facebook.com/adblockplus is next?

AdBlock Plus doesn't block Facebook ads for me. Am I using it wrong?

By default, Adblock Plus "Allow[s] some non-intrusive advertising."

You have to go into the settings and opt out to stop all ads.

Re: Facebook deletes Social Fixer page, blocks page admins

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Post by EGreg » Thu, Sep 12, 2013, 5:23 PM UTC

This is why I wrote this: http://qbix.com/blog

Don't rely on one platform.

Re: Facebook deletes Social Fixer page, blocks page admins

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Post by Karunamon » Thu, Sep 12, 2013, 5:24 PM UTC

wutbrodo wrote: post #21

Karunamon wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The TOS is not above criticism or complaint, and I for one am tired of people being shouted down because they dared take issue with draconian policies.

I tend to have a lot of problems with the way Facebook operates (mostly involving how they treat their users), but they seem pretty reasonable in this case. How is it draconian to not allow a Page on your platform that (among other things) blocks your source of revenue? (social fixer allows blocking Facebook ads)

So does Adblock Plus, so does Noscript, so do the content filtering features of major browsers, yet those all have major pages. Blocking the people is just plain dickery on Facebook's part.

Re: Facebook deletes Social Fixer page, blocks page admins

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Sep 12, 2013, 5:26 PM UTC

Karunamon wrote: post #14

res0nat0r wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is against the Facebook TOS, unfortunately shouldn't we be telling him "don't violate Facebook's TOS without expecting repercussions?"

The TOS is not above criticism or complaint, and I for one am tired of people being shouted down because they dared take issue with draconian policies.

[deleted]

Re: Facebook deletes Social Fixer page, blocks page admins

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Post by lutusp » Thu, Sep 12, 2013, 5:28 PM UTC

Karunamon wrote: post #14

res0nat0r wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is against the Facebook TOS, unfortunately shouldn't we be telling him "don't violate Facebook's TOS without expecting repercussions?"

The TOS is not above criticism or complaint, and I for one am tired of people being shouted down because they dared take issue with draconian policies.

> I for one am tired of people being shouted down because they dared take issue with draconian policies.

You speak of Facebook as though it's a democracy or a public service. Facebook is a business, not a charity, and not a humanitarian enterprise.

Re: Facebook deletes Social Fixer page, blocks page admins

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Post by mildtrepidation » Thu, Sep 12, 2013, 5:30 PM UTC

misterbwong wrote: post #17

namenotrequired wrote: post #7

Beware: Your Business Is At The Mercy Of Facebook! ...if you allow yourself to rely entirely on them.

...and violate their TOS at the same time.

Well, whether you do or not, if it's the sole platform you build on, you're at their mercy.

Violating the TOS means you should expect to get burned (and you've done it to yourself). Either they utterly failed at any kind of due diligence while designing this product or they're lying about not understanding Facebook's actions; neither really engenders sympathy.

I'm not a fan of FB, but this clearly is not some arbitrary evilness on their end.

Re: Facebook deletes Social Fixer page, blocks page admins

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Post by Karunamon » Thu, Sep 12, 2013, 5:30 PM UTC

[deleted] wrote: post #26

Karunamon wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The TOS is not above criticism or complaint, and I for one am tired of people being shouted down because they dared take issue with draconian policies.

[deleted]

I appreciate the civility.

But please keep in mind what this is. This is not a startup company or a business who was shot down, this was a hobby project by one guy[1]. I'm not sure if that makes it better or worse.. better I suppose since nobody's livelihood was wrecked over it.

SF is not a threat to Facebook in any way - this is just plain old dickery hiding behind the rule book as an excuse.

[1]: http://socialfixer.com/about.php

Re: Facebook deletes Social Fixer page, blocks page admins

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Post by Karunamon » Thu, Sep 12, 2013, 5:33 PM UTC

lutusp wrote: post #27

Karunamon wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The TOS is not above criticism or complaint, and I for one am tired of people being shouted down because they dared take issue with draconian policies.

> I for one am tired of people being shouted down because they dared take issue with draconian policies. You speak of Facebook as though it's a democracy or a public service. Facebook is a business, not a charity, and not a humanitarian enterprise.

You open to the public, you open yourself up to public criticism. The way the business is run is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is, this sucks, and complaining (loudly) is the way to get it fixed.