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Sexism In The Tech Industry Takes Center Stage

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Re: Sexism In The Tech Industry Takes Center Stage

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Best comment on the article from Bob Costas... For years people (and yes, mostly guys) who were involved in the tech industry and engineering in general were shunned and dismissed by culture at large to be losers and sexual non-entities and therefore lacking in social currency. As a result of this mass dismissal and social rejection, and since most women aren't raised or brought up to deal with rejection and social s…

It doesn't take that long to shower.

Re: Sexism In The Tech Industry Takes Center Stage

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My question is, what kind of jerk would brand a whole field as sexist because of the sensationally bad behavior of two people?

The field has a serious problem with sexism, even if many (or even most) of its individual members are not themselves sexist.

drat! you again!

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post #51
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Interesting that HN keeps killing threads on this topic: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6360328 A stubborn refusal to confront the problem is what helps these attitudes fester.

(edit: this thread has, indeed, been voted off the front page once again.) I expect this will be voted off too, it already seems to be lower-placed than it ought to be given the number of upvotes. I posted (what I though to be) a very interesting article on Popehat about free speech and the costs contained within a few days ago: http://www.popehat.com/2013/09/10/speech-and-consequences/ Unfortunately it talked about…

>> this thread has, indeed, been voted off the front page once again. Keep sweeping under the rug, it'll hold lots.

Re: Sexism In The Tech Industry Takes Center Stage

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post #22

Interesting that HN keeps killing threads on this topic: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6360328 A stubborn refusal to confront the problem is what helps these attitudes fester.

Probably a combination of fatigue and not wanting to deal with the toxicity these type of threads tend to be utterly soaked in. "Confronting the problem" is hard in the company of reasoned discussion and nigh-impossible in the face of extremists. *edit And that's why I flagged it. Not because I'm some horrible sexist, or because I want women to fail, but because I don't want HN turning into Tumblr or SRS. On top of a…

Extremists? Is that what you call anyone who isn't a sexist like you? And what does SRS have to do with anything? I left reddit to get away from the r/mensrights freaks like you so you might want to keep your bullshit there.

Re: Sexism In The Tech Industry Takes Center Stage

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post #39

Best comment on the article from Bob Costas... For years people (and yes, mostly guys) who were involved in the tech industry and engineering in general were shunned and dismissed by culture at large to be losers and sexual non-entities and therefore lacking in social currency. As a result of this mass dismissal and social rejection, and since most women aren't raised or brought up to deal with rejection and social s…

The youtube link should be: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYBPotROKC8

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post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably a combination of fatigue and not wanting to deal with the toxicity these type of threads tend to be utterly soaked in. "Confronting the problem" is hard in the company of reasoned discussion and nigh-impossible in the face of extremists. *edit And that's why I flagged it. Not because I'm some horrible sexist, or because I want women to fail, but because I don't want HN turning into Tumblr or SRS. On top of a…

Extremists? Is that what you call anyone who isn't a sexist like you? And what does SRS have to do with anything? I left reddit to get away from the r/mensrights freaks like you so you might want to keep your bullshit there.

Wow, defensive AND insulting. Thanks for proving my point about toxicity and boring-ness.

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post #85
post #39

Best comment on the article from Bob Costas... For years people (and yes, mostly guys) who were involved in the tech industry and engineering in general were shunned and dismissed by culture at large to be losers and sexual non-entities and therefore lacking in social currency. As a result of this mass dismissal and social rejection, and since most women aren't raised or brought up to deal with rejection and social s…

This was more or less the argument against women in the armed forces, too. You know, it's not that they're stupid , it's just that they're just too dainty and precious for our rough and tumble profession.

It does not really help when someone goes ballistic over jokes about "dongles." My mother works in a rough profession (a railroad), and one more than one occasion someone has made immature jokes about certain long, slender tools on the job. Guess what? My mother joins in on the fun, or else just ignores it when she considers it to be beneath her humor. This might have something to do with the fact that everyone is too busy worrying about losing a finger (or worse) than with offending some dainty creature.

Women can be just as tough as men. Of course, the idea that maybe this kind of banter should be all-inclusive (as it is where my mom works) is simply not up for discussion in the tech community; we're busy telling people there should be no banter at all.

Re: Sexism In The Tech Industry Takes Center Stage

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So, this has to be said. These fucktards are the people representing our profession on NPR. NPR doesn't run stories about the other apps presented at TechCrunch Disrupt. The public won't here about that, or really, much of the cool tech that goes on. They'll hear about this, and that's what they'll remember. Why the hell doesn't someone go up on that stage and kick those idiots off? Who's the goddamn moderator that i…

It is a pretty simple rule of media: whoever the most controversial[1] member of your community is will be its representative as far as the media is concerned as long as the media is not part of that community. Which communities the media is a member in changes from media provider to media provider. No mainstream media is a member of the tech community.

1) for some definition of controversial including depraved, out-there, insulting-to-community-members, and click generating

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These guys are idiots and there is definitely sexism in the IT industry. But every time I see these stories saying there is sexism in IT I think compared to what? Finance (Wall Street!)? Marketing? Law? Government? Military? Manufacturing? Construction? I guess the disturbing part is what makes these guys think they can be this open about it. Wall Street has rampant sexism but I'm thinking they are smart enough not t…

The tech industry has a real problem. What happens in other industries doesn't change that.

Totally agree. Just wonder why the focus seems to be on just the IT industry (maybe that's the only ones I'm seeing since I'm on tech sites).
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