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Help me figure out how I lost this bet to an engineer

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Re: Help me figure out how I lost this bet to an engineer

#61
Saying she "doesn't exist on the internet" is a big assumption. First, she is on Facebook, so she's on the internet, easily accessible or no. Second, most people leave some internet trail through online forums, newspaper articles and newsletters.

I find it very likely that she was found on the internet somewhere.

Re: Help me figure out how I lost this bet to an engineer

#62
post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't feel bad about letting the discussion continue as-is because of the fact that we completely expected to get the answer with only the information mentioned here. I still haven't heard this method mentioned yet directly. The "extra" information we got came later after we already started working on it, and came as surprise. It just happened to bring the result back sooner than the other approach.

that the extra information brought the result back "sooner" is intriguing. If you don't mind me asking, would other approaches discussed here have brought the result nonetheless? or did they?

I'm pretty confident it would have, but we ultimately "stopped" it after getting the answer confirmed, so I can't say with 100%.

Re: Help me figure out how I lost this bet to an engineer

#63

I'm the engineer he's referring to. I still get a laugh seeing Justin's amazement when we told him her name. To answer a few questions... - This isn't the actual photo but looks similar, except that she was alone. Justin was afraid of reposting the same photo after the results of handing over a photo last time :) - There was no useful exif data in the image. - We knew her high school and approximate age in Austin, bu…

You looked on Instagram and other for pictures taken at the bar, and you found one either taken by the woman in question or one of her friends with the mystery woman tagged.

Or maybe you knew that she wanted him to meet her at an event and you found a roster for that event- or ie if it was a real estate convention you would have a pretty good idea that she was a realtor and could look at websites for realtors in Austin.

Or maybe you checked his recent facebook friends, looked at his recent twitter followers, and everyone who liked/commented on his recent photos/posts on Instagram and whatever other social networks he's on- as well as the photos/posts he liked/commented on.

I think you took a (relatively) low-tech approach to this.

Re: Help me figure out how I lost this bet to an engineer

#64
So basically the engineers knew something specific about the girl already which narrowed their data set. Unless they tell you what that was, we can go all day long guessing how they "figured" it out. In fact with this information I am interested in the actual time taken to find the girl. They could have found her in five minutes after receiving the picture and you wouldn't know. Why? From the article:

1) They were running software on a computer for hours

They are engineers!

2) The first couple of tries didn’t work

Are you sure they weren't debugging?

3) They knew what high school she went too prior to searching

If they know the high school they only have to find one or two established teachers who were around for a long period of time. It is not unlikely they can call a name from a picture after all those years.

This smells like viral marketing to me (too bad I still don't know what close.io is, should have added some information to the article. Or are you looking for new engineers? "Hey look! At close.io we seal bets with engineers. About girls! Come work for us!").

Re: Help me figure out how I lost this bet to an engineer

#65

I'm the engineer he's referring to. I still get a laugh seeing Justin's amazement when we told him her name. To answer a few questions... - This isn't the actual photo but looks similar, except that she was alone. Justin was afraid of reposting the same photo after the results of handing over a photo last time :) - There was no useful exif data in the image. - We knew her high school and approximate age in Austin, bu…

post pic on craiglist/similar in Austin area. Say you found wallet/purse/camera/etc with her picture. Anyone that knows her please call/email w/ Name/Address for you to send back. Use highschool for validation when contacted. Might have some error.

Re: Help me figure out how I lost this bet to an engineer

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I'm the engineer he's referring to. I still get a laugh seeing Justin's amazement when we told him her name. To answer a few questions... - This isn't the actual photo but looks similar, except that she was alone. Justin was afraid of reposting the same photo after the results of handing over a photo last time :) - There was no useful exif data in the image. - We knew her high school and approximate age in Austin, bu…

It was this line - "On Thursday night, after exchanging texts all day, around 8:00pm local time the girl sent me a picture of her in order to convince me to meet her at an event she was going to."

Find the event Thursday night at 8:00pm in Austin and start tracking down from there.

Re: Help me figure out how I lost this bet to an engineer

#69
post #58

One of the things that looks like a clue to me is that this the lead engineer of close.io. Browsing through their site, it looks like they do "telecom in an API"; it reminds me of Twilio and OneBox. So, here's a thought. Let's say the Engineer has access to the SMS logs (NSA-style) for Justin's phone. (Maybe his phone goes through their system. But even if not, maybe it's company-provided, so there's an admin interfa…

I love this explanation. But unfortunately there was no telephony hacking of any kind as this was just an ordinary personal cell phone.

I did have an idea that we could try to hack his Verizon account to look at his SMS log, figuring that Forgot Password questions might be easy or that we could intercept an email. But we didn't do this.

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