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Apple’s “Windows 95″ Problem

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Re: Apple’s “Windows 95″ Problem

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Apple's challenge is that they have been iterating by adding features to the iPod for more than a decade. Adding a phone, and touch, and software and a bigger screen have worked because they have found a way to do so profitably and at scale. They sold because they provided new kinds of uses.

But in the end, it's the electronics industry and the efficiency of supply and manufacturing pipelines is increasing faster than Apple's demand - i.e. the companies which make up the pipeline are growing their businesses beyond meeting Apple's demands and Apple's competitors are able to utilize that capacity to make their operations more efficient.

The seed change is that Apple is increasingly marketing their products on specifications rather than differences of kind. Retina was the first example of "now with more of what we already have." Adding a quad-core processor is just a faster horse not an airplane.

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Why is iOS 7 being perceived as "not innovative?" If your innovations are only in software, do they not count?

I'm sure they do count but what innovations does iOS7 actually have? (not snarky, I've just not seen anything so far I'd consider innovative).

iBeacon.

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post #13

The stock pretty much always falls after Apple announce something. I assume the reasons are complex — anything new is a risk, anything old is a lower-margin version. Historically, you cannot make any accurate predictions of Apple's success or failure based on The Market's reaction to a keynote. That leaves the other point: "Meh". Yes, I'm sure everyone wants Apple to announce something groundbreaking and industry def…

Apple stock has been up 4/7 times the day after the announcement of an iPhone.

What are the numbers when counting non-iPhone announcements? Apple's stock dropping after a keynote isn't uncommon.

Re: Apple’s “Windows 95″ Problem

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> The market is telling Apple that it is not innovative enough

Which market? The smart phone market? Because I think the new iPhones will sell as well as the prior models.

Or does the author mean the 'stock market' ... which to me is more a casino than a real market.

If people buy iPhones and Apple makes truckloads of money then ... well ... fuck the stock market gamblers.

Re: Apple’s “Windows 95″ Problem

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post #18

It's bizarre to lump Win XP in with duds like Me and Vista. Isn't XP, by most measures, an unmitigated success? (You might not think it's great personally, but it's certainly not the case that MS has had no blockbusters since Win 95.)

XP was the first consumer OS with the NT kernel. It was a success but it was never recognized as very innovative. Which it wasn't. Even Microsoft gave it a point release (5.1) on top of Windows 2000 (5.0)

It wasn't innovative if you were looking at the basic features, but for consumers, it was the first update from Windows 95 or 98, and bringing them an (at the time) fresh and new OS built on top of a new (for them) kernel with a bunch of features that made it that much better. Of course, I'd say XP wasn't 'done' until SP 2, given how it quickly became the primary target for virusses and whatnot.

Re: Apple’s “Windows 95″ Problem

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post #47

> Apple in time will need to move away from the iPhone and iPad, as they will become a commodity. As someone who already owns a Nexus 4 and a 1st gen Nexus 7 they are already a commodity, I bought my N4 for half what an iPhone 5 costs. The only thing that keeps Apple even remotely price comparable on the iPhone is that people mostly buy a smart phone on contract so they see roughly the same price per month (but the c…

This, so much. It really does feel a lot like the Mac vs PC wars again. I just wonder if Apple can learn from their mistakes in the 80s. Perhaps they are, and are trying to avoid the fate of 1990s Apple with some of the strategies mentioned in other comments.

All analogies are imperfect, so I don't want to harp on this too much since there are parallels, but consider things like Apple's supply chain, existing app and content ecosystem, interoperability of modern digital services and desirability of the App Store from a revenue perspective, and pure scale.

Apple has already evaded 95% of the pitfalls of the PC wars.

Also, don't get me started on IBM serving up 20 years of absolute digital dominance to Microsoft on a silver platter. No analogies to be made there as far as I can see, I don't think Samsung is going to eat Google's lunch.

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I have yet to see a "commodity" smartphone or tablet that was nearly as stable or reliable as an iOS device, didn't have the UX destroyed by manufacturer customization, and wasn't abandoned by its manufacturer and never updated again just a few months into the two-year upgrade cycle. Has the Android ecosystem actually solved these problems yet?

Only one way to find out.

Re: Apple’s “Windows 95″ Problem

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post #27

It used to be I bought Apple products at a premium price to be ahead of the curve in technology. For instance, Retina Screens on Phones, Thunderbolt ports, lightweight quad core notebooks. Now I find myself waiting for Apple to play catch up and release NFC on an iPhone, or HASWELL MACBOOK PROS/Retina (that I can't believe we don't have yet). The Macbook Pros used to be the first of popular laptops to use the latest…

> Now what am I paying the premium price for again?

The current-generation Macbooks?

* High performance * Retina display * Tiny package * OSX * Status

I'm not a fanboy, but I'm looking forward to being allowed to pick out a new macbook late this year or early next. Will probably wait for the new batch, this 2011 model I work with atm is still awesome. My previous dev machine (at an assignment) was a Core I7, 32 GB monster... but it ran on Ubuntu and didn't feel as nippy or awesome as this macbook. The OS does make an important difference.

But I digress / ramble.

Re: Apple’s “Windows 95″ Problem

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> Apple in time will need to move away from the iPhone and iPad, as they will become a commodity. As someone who already owns a Nexus 4 and a 1st gen Nexus 7 they are already a commodity, I bought my N4 for half what an iPhone 5 costs. The only thing that keeps Apple even remotely price comparable on the iPhone is that people mostly buy a smart phone on contract so they see roughly the same price per month (but the c…

> As someone who already owns a Nexus 4 and a 1st gen Nexus 7 they are already a > commodity, I bought my N4 for half what an iPhone 5 costs.

Good for you. Premium products are not for everyone. Part of the Apple premium products is for example that I can simply walk into the next Apple Store to get support in case of any problems. From my home, I can reach two Apple Stores by public transport in about 30 minutes, form my office, it's a 10-minute walk to one of the two Apple Stores.

Last year for example, I dropped my iPhone 4S and the screen was broken to uselessness. A stupid mistake on my side. I immediately scheduled an appointment with the local Apple Store and 2 hours later, I was talking to a 'genius'. The offered to replace my iPhone 4S with a new 4S for about 280 USD; I had bought the iPhone 4S for about USD 960. OK, perfect, so I walked out with a new 4S 10-15 minutes later and thanks to my iCloud backup, my new iPhone 4S was up and running a few hours later.

Where's the Google equivalent?

Re: Apple’s “Windows 95″ Problem

#60
"The market is telling Apple that it is not innovative enough and that its need to do much more"

The stock market might be saying that but the "people who buy phones" market seems to be pretty happy with what Apple is doing.

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