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Apple’s “Windows 95″ Problem

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Re: Apple’s “Windows 95″ Problem

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It used to be I bought Apple products at a premium price to be ahead of the curve in technology. For instance, Retina Screens on Phones, Thunderbolt ports, lightweight quad core notebooks. Now I find myself waiting for Apple to play catch up and release NFC on an iPhone, or HASWELL MACBOOK PROS/Retina (that I can't believe we don't have yet). The Macbook Pros used to be the first of popular laptops to use the latest…

If Apple haven't released NFC by now, they're not gonna. They might throw up a slide at some point in a year or two pointing out how little Android users actually use NFC, right before announcing that they've managed to get extremely-low-power Bluetooth autonegotiation with auth-token-push on thumbprint-confirmation working, or something.

Re: Apple’s “Windows 95″ Problem

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post #27

It used to be I bought Apple products at a premium price to be ahead of the curve in technology. For instance, Retina Screens on Phones, Thunderbolt ports, lightweight quad core notebooks. Now I find myself waiting for Apple to play catch up and release NFC on an iPhone, or HASWELL MACBOOK PROS/Retina (that I can't believe we don't have yet). The Macbook Pros used to be the first of popular laptops to use the latest…

>Retina Screens on Phones

There was actually several android phones a better screen resolution than a Retina display when it came out, they just didn't have a marketing term attached to them.

Re: Apple’s “Windows 95″ Problem

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> Apple in time will need to move away from the iPhone and iPad, as they will become a commodity. As someone who already owns a Nexus 4 and a 1st gen Nexus 7 they are already a commodity, I bought my N4 for half what an iPhone 5 costs. The only thing that keeps Apple even remotely price comparable on the iPhone is that people mostly buy a smart phone on contract so they see roughly the same price per month (but the c…

Google doesn't make any money off their Nexus devices. They sell them close to cost. Unless Apple is planning to convert itself into an advertising company (like Google), I don't think holding out the Nexus branded devices as an example to follow is reasonable. Samsung is really the only player making significant money in the Android space. I think it makes more sense to look at what they are doing.

Re: Apple’s “Windows 95″ Problem

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post #18

It's bizarre to lump Win XP in with duds like Me and Vista. Isn't XP, by most measures, an unmitigated success? (You might not think it's great personally, but it's certainly not the case that MS has had no blockbusters since Win 95.)

XP was the first consumer OS with the NT kernel. It was a success but it was never recognized as very innovative. Which it wasn't. Even Microsoft gave it a point release (5.1) on top of Windows 2000 (5.0)

Anecdotal but when I upgraded from Windows 2000 to Windows XP, I actually noticed faster boot time. It still took over three minutes on my old machine though.

Re: Apple’s “Windows 95″ Problem

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> Apple in time will need to move away from the iPhone and iPad, as they will become a commodity. As someone who already owns a Nexus 4 and a 1st gen Nexus 7 they are already a commodity, I bought my N4 for half what an iPhone 5 costs. The only thing that keeps Apple even remotely price comparable on the iPhone is that people mostly buy a smart phone on contract so they see roughly the same price per month (but the c…

This, so much. It really does feel a lot like the Mac vs PC wars again.

I just wonder if Apple can learn from their mistakes in the 80s. Perhaps they are, and are trying to avoid the fate of 1990s Apple with some of the strategies mentioned in other comments.

Re: Apple’s “Windows 95″ Problem

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...while Android has blundered along releasing phones with 4 hour battery life and jittery screens. Is Android a company now, with singular (if faulty) vision and execution? Some Android phones are junk. Some are great. Most are in-between, and there are a LOT of them. You can make the same statements about desktop and laptop computers based on IBM's original standards, and you wouldn't blame IBM for the range. I do…

>Is Android a company now, with singular (if faulty) vision and execution? To you and I? No. To your parents or the general public? Yes. They will buy one low end android phone, it was suck, they will say "Android is terrible". I know people who went from iPhone 4 to a free Android phone and are wanting to return to apple. The same goes for laptop companies. They'll buy the cheapest Dell. It'll fall apart in 6 months…

Agreed no one knows what Android is. However, there's no sign that anyone is concluding that "Android is terrible". People who buy cheap phones are not going to be comparing to the latest iPhone.

Re: Apple’s “Windows 95″ Problem

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Keep in mind what Apple has been doing with the proceeds of its amazing cash cow: - smart moves to economize the supply chain - attempting to simplify/unify its various OSes. - hinting at a lower price point future (inevitable). - focusing on patented industrial design (lightning connector, new mac pro, etc.) - taking away carrier margins (iMessage) - notably ignoring "enterprise users" and focusing on making consume…

Yes, it's amazing how much Android has lagged, releasing best-in-class phones like the HTC Once and Sony Xperia Z1 that have no match in the iOS world (and that cost the same as Apple's 'low-end' 5C). As well as inexpensive mid-range products like the Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 making modern well-made smartphones and tablets accessible to all. Not to mention the open ecosytem and OS that all kinds of companies are innovatin…

so what are the sales numbers of the cited best-in-class phones?

HTC in particular seems like a dead man walking.

Re: Apple’s “Windows 95″ Problem

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...while Android has blundered along releasing phones with 4 hour battery life and jittery screens. Is Android a company now, with singular (if faulty) vision and execution? Some Android phones are junk. Some are great. Most are in-between, and there are a LOT of them. You can make the same statements about desktop and laptop computers based on IBM's original standards, and you wouldn't blame IBM for the range. I do…

>Is Android a company now, with singular (if faulty) vision and execution? To you and I? No. To your parents or the general public? Yes. They will buy one low end android phone, it was suck, they will say "Android is terrible". I know people who went from iPhone 4 to a free Android phone and are wanting to return to apple. The same goes for laptop companies. They'll buy the cheapest Dell. It'll fall apart in 6 months…

> They'll buy the cheapest Dell. It'll fall apart in 6 months. "Dells are terrible".

But at least Dell is a single company / manufacturer and not a brand name. Of course, said experience could make people go "Laptops are terrible". Actually, it does, and they go right back to their Macbooks.

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