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Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by Macha »

ricardobeat wrote: post #635
Macha wrote: post #497

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My Desire HD has a 32GB SD card now because the 16GB was full with music, videos and game ROMs. That 32 is pretty close to full now. My younger brother has filled up two 16GB iPod Touches (second gen and fourth gen) with music and videos. My extremely non-technical father has filled up the 8GB SD card his phone came with, with just music. I'm sure if he could, he'd use more space but a €30 microSD card is more than h…

Streaming. There is no reason to carry a complete copy of your music/video library around with you. If you think there is, the iPod Classic is made for you :)

Now, here's what happens when I try to stream a video on my phone's internet connection:

* It takes 20 seconds of buffering just to start. * Assuming it's 360p, it runs for about a minute or two, then starts to buffer again. If it's higher, it lasts even less. * The video starts to buffer again. This takes another 20 seconds. * This repeats until the end of the video. * My phone company charges me €2 for data used in excess of my daily allowance.

My home internet connection is mostly the same experience, except I can watch a 480p video, and I don't get charged €2 for it.

A lot of places that I might be don't even get EDGE coverage, never mind 3G or anything better. For 25 of the 30 minutes of my most common bus trip, I don't have 3G coverage.

Here's what happens when I watch a video of any quality on my microSD card.

* I open the video in my video player. * The video plays, without interruption, until the end.

I'll be sticking with local storage for a while yet.

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by x0054 »

pavlov wrote: post #112
seiji wrote: post #99

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Not on Hacker News. On Hacker News your press conference should alternate new feature paragraphs with apologies. "We have a new fingerprint sensor! But, you probably don't want to use it because privacy crazies online think Apple is a front for the NSA." "We're moving to a 64-bit architecture! But, geeks with low reading comprehension think it's not that useful because we have tiny RAM, so you should just ignore this…

The Lumia 1020 will be hard to beat for the title of "best mobile phone camera ever created".

Lumia 1020 has very slow shot-to-shot and start times. On iPhone 5 I can start the camera app and shoot 9 images in 10 seconds. Just did it. On 1020 you might get 3 shots of in the same time. But the key is the time to first shot. On iPhone 5, from off to first shot is roughly 2.5 seconds, and just .5 of a second or so for the second. 1020 takes 4-5 seconds for first shot, another 2-3 seconds for the second (based on my experiments in the store).

Since most people use their cameras to shoot pictures of cute cats or children, and then upload them to FB, I think the vast majority of people would prefer the fast and very good quality of the iPhone over the slow but excellent quality of 1020.

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Post by randomafrican »

mark_integerdsv wrote: post #674
gbog wrote: post #578

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If you are in Europe then you may have better enforced laws protecting you. If you are in Africa your government might not have the expertise and resources to spy on you. If you are in China, well...

South African here - we have a lovely little bit of legislation known as RICA. Don't assume that African govts are backward in terms of technology.

You guys are outliers and you know it (some of you are even proud of it).

So the GP is right. African governements in general do not have the means to spy on your electronic life.

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Post by lewispollard »

danabramov wrote: post #158
lewispollard wrote: post #55

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The entire NSA thing to date is a huge scandal, and yet no one (outside of the tech community) seems to really care... Not many people are closing their accounts associated with NSA complicit companies.

Do you really fail to see the difference between disclosing user info already on the servers to the NSA under legal orders and announcing a new product after the leaks, claiming it does not send any data, and doing the exact opposite without any additional benefit? Why would Apple do this? I don't recall reading NSA can now force companies to include finger sensors, and then force them to collect data they wouldn't b…

I didn't say anything of the sort - just that major tech companies don't seem to really care about their reputation in relation to the NSA snooping. I'm not saying they've built in backdoors or anything either way, I'm just saying if they have, I don't think the average consumer seems to really care about it. Heck, I'd bet most of Hacker News is still using Google, Facebook, Microsoft products etc. and their reputations have hardly been tarnished by the revelations.

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Post by Tichy »

sytelus wrote: post #530
Tichy wrote: post #495

Can't believe they didn't make bigger screens. iPhones seem so tiny these days. Also, just 33 votes on HN atm - made me realize that probasbly people are already using HN votes as input for their stock trading aslgorithms :-)

I disagree. The iPhone 4 had (and still has) the perfect dimension of any phones for holding in to adult average human hand and carrying it around in average sized pant pockets or strapping it on arms while jogging/hiking. The iPhone 5 ruined it a bit in trying to copy competition and not knowing that it actually had it better. I see people using large android brick sized phones all the time uncomfortably carrying it…

By that logic, Apple should have never published the iPad because it is too big to hold in a human hand. Carrying bigger phones in a pocket isn't really an issue either.

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Post by Tichy »

NamTaf wrote: post #684
batiudrami wrote: post #659

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The only real use for a bigger screen is that using the internet is considerably more usable. The easiest way to see this is to compare the internet on an iPhone vs iPad - even though you have exactly the same inputs (assuming you don't use a stylus), the iPad is orders of magnitude easier to browse the web on. There is a similar effect (though obviously lesser) to interacting with web pages on a 5" screen vs a 4" on…

Of course, but if I want to do more than passing browsing then I would want to do it on a device other than my phone. My phone's net connection is for finding out quick info, like transport schedules or the current score in a sports match. It's not for doing extended browsing. Hence to me, a bigger screen is detrimental.

You'd want to do extended browsing on another device precisely because the iPhone is too small. Your mind is stuck in "faster horses" land and you can't imagine what use you could get out of a better phone :-)

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Post by fudged71 »

UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #458
ececconi wrote: post #177

The USA already has all 10 of my fingerprints. When I was going through the process of becoming a permanent resident, I had to scan it into a machine. Every time I come back into the USA after coming back from a trip outside the country, I have to scan multiple of my prints.

Everyone who enters the US has to get their fingerprints scanned (even tourists), it has been that way for many many years.

I just flew into the US from Canada and have never had my fingerprints scanned.

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Post by drill_sarge »

fudged71 wrote: post #697
UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #458

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Everyone who enters the US has to get their fingerprints scanned (even tourists), it has been that way for many many years.

I just flew into the US from Canada and have never had my fingerprints scanned.

Fingerprints get scanned when you get a passport here. Maybe they already knew and no need for additional scanning

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Post by orbitur »

acchow wrote: post #71
alxbrun wrote: post #15

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My "is it new?" test works this way: how would I explain what's new to my father (who is 74 years old and knows not much about tech). A7, M7, iOS 7, better camera and flash: not much to say. Touch ID OK that's new, but that's not much.

"The photos look way better" is pretty easy to describe.

And if they reply that they don't think iPhone 5 photos look bad?

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Post by ricardobeat »

Macha wrote: post #691
ricardobeat wrote: post #635

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Streaming. There is no reason to carry a complete copy of your music/video library around with you. If you think there is, the iPod Classic is made for you :)

Now, here's what happens when I try to stream a video on my phone's internet connection: * It takes 20 seconds of buffering just to start. * Assuming it's 360p, it runs for about a minute or two, then starts to buffer again. If it's higher, it lasts even less. * The video starts to buffer again. This takes another 20 seconds. * This repeats until the end of the video. * My phone company charges me €2 for data used in…

You can still just sync sporadically what you need, and keep the complete library on a HD or your main computer. Most peoples' collections won't even fit on a 128GB device.
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