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Re: Huge water reserve discovered in Kenya

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Plastic is the new aluminum (although I really like the 5c, actually, though the case is an abomination).

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The topic isn't about iPhones. Its about finding an underground sea of freshwater and how that can help people. Lets keep the discussion on course.

Re: Huge water reserve discovered in Kenya

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Finally, some positive news out of Africa! Let's hope we (both local governments and groups, and Western "aid") don't screw this up.

I'm not familiar with the Kenyan political climate, so if anyone else has some experience or knowledge about this, could you enlighten the rest of us about whether the government is helping the population as a whole or serves minority interests? Is the country stable? Bordering Sudan, Ehtiopia and Somalia can't be easy.

Re: Huge water reserve discovered in Kenya

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You raise some important issues, but if anything I actually think that this aquifer is going to reduce the conflict in this area. The civil wars, rape, and poisoning are all symptoms of a deeper illness: poverty. Africans aren't more corrupt or warlike than anyone else, they're just poorer and therefore more desperate. Conflict minerals (diamonds, coltan, etc) fuel conflict because they are easy to control. It only t…

> Africans aren't more corrupt or warlike than anyone else How do you know? My history teacher never hesitated to teach us how Prussia was good at war, and how France sucked at war. Edit: this is an honest question. If I said anything wrong, please let me know as well.

> My history teacher never hesitated to teach us how Prussia was good at war, and how France sucked at war.

He should have hesitated, since historically France is one of the most militarily successful nations.

Re: Huge water reserve discovered in Kenya

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I lived there for several years so I must say this is exciting I can only imagine how they feel, There are so many undiscovered territories on mother earth I'm just glad there is people out there not giving up on humanity and do what it takes to solve the big problems.

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I don't claim to understand African issues very well, so take my comments with the grain of salt that I'm very ignorant. The civil wars that happen in certain African nations are troubling. But what was more troubling to me was reading news how factions would take control by poisoning wells that provided water for citizens. It was unthinkable to me that someone could actually do that, especially in certain areas wher…

>If such water supplies are found in areas where there is conflict, I worry that it only would add to the conflict I think you are completely right. Incoming anecdotal & speculation : My parents, born in Lagos Nigeria, basically saw this happen. They never planned to be in USA this long; I wasn't suppose to be born here. Basically, Shell(A gas station in USA) is strongly suspected of providing, at least in part, fund…

The key question is if water can be used to start this kind of conflicts. I guess it could if the water means successful agriculture.

Minor correction: Shell is a European oil company.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Dutch_Shell

Re: Huge water reserve discovered in Kenya

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This was exactly my thought after having seen a documentary about how Nestle does business

I saw that documentary too[1]. They will see this discovery not as 70 years of clean drinking water, but as 70 years of huge profits. They will do whatever it takes to buy exclusive rights and then pump it out as fast as they can (with little care for the environment), put it in bottles, then cleverly market and sell it to the local people who live there, for prizes that only the middle and upper classes can afford.…

Coca cola are not far behind, but they do flavour the water before selling it.

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I really shouldn't be getting into this, but whatever: Let's assume that you believe that "all men are born equal" and you know for yourself that you are not a war-mongering, savaging monster and that this are also not typical traits for other people around you. Then, from your believe that "alle men are born equal" it's just far more likely that people in africa would default to a similar, peaceful, state like you a…

@chrischen: (I cannot reploy to your latest comment) All I was trying to do is explain how one might come to the conclusion that africans are not intrinsically more corrupt or warlike than other people (instead of the opposite). I wasn't offended by your statement or wanted it to label as racism or anything. I'm sorry if you've misunderstood that.

Yes I understand how the OP came to his conclusion. In fact, the reason why I made my comment was to point out that his conclusion was based on fallacious logic.

Re: Huge water reserve discovered in Kenya

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The positivity on HN lately is almost too much to handle.

I'm starting to worry that reading Hacker News comments is going to drastically sour my outlook in life over time.

> I'm starting to worry that reading Hacker News comments is going to drastically sour my outlook in life over time.

That may be, but direct experience would likely do that faster.

Re: Huge water reserve discovered in Kenya

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Groundwater will become an increasingly important resource, and it will be especially critical in a region that experiences periodic droughts like East Africa. Kenya faces a water crisis, and water cuts were not uncommon even for those with access to tap water when I lived in Kenya around the turn of the millennium (I don't know how it is now).

However, because of its perception as a common-pool resource—land owners think they are entitled to the water beneath their land—groundwater management seems to me to present a particular challenge. Are there any success stories in sustainable groundwater management that Kenya could look at? Kenya does have the framework for managing water resources, but it's a question of implementation and political will. Control over resources seems to often end up in the hands of influential individuals who operate with impunity.

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