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Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Ads of multicolored devices featuring content that matches the enclosure? Who would've thunk it? http://cl.ly/image/1U3i2F2v2r43

Those are all just staged for ads (unless you think you can't listen to the Beatles Red Album on a blue nano and vice versa) except for the latest one, which came out after the Nokia devices. I'm sure someone did it before (I seem to recall IE5 letting you change the interface to match the early iMac colours) but your comment (and a quick glance at the linked image) is misleading as it stands. http://en.wikipedia.org…

The Nokia is staged for ads too. You can change the highlight color to be whatever you want. Additionally, many WP apps have a solid colored tile that doesn't respect the user's color choice.

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More snark. This isn't helpful. For those who want to believe it, I doubt there is any amount of information that could ever be released to convince them that the NSA isn't spying on people anymore.

> For those who want to believe it, I doubt there is any amount of information that could ever be released to convince them that the NSA isn't spying on people anymore. The NSA is a spy agency, of course they are spying on people. Unless the NSA ceases to exist it will spy on people. They are not actively trying to claim otherwise (only that they try really hard to only spy on people who are in someway connected to s…

The difference is, they're now spying on everyone. I struggle to find a credible justification for that.

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Now that we have to consider the iPhones to be backdoored by the NSA, I wonder whether I really want to give them my fingerprint together with the rest of my data. I'm also not so sure whether a fingerprint can't still be easily faked (like it was possible on that Mythbusters episode for example). Personally, I think I'd rather stay with my passcode. Did you btw know that you can turn off "simple passcode" and then u…

The thing that mystifies me most about the whole NSA scare is:

Did you honestly not suspect they were doing this all along? Why the concern just because some details have been leaked?

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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About the ID fingerprints? Am I the only one so in constant fear and doubt that thinks this would be a great way of bulk collecting the fingerprints of ANYONE?

They say that applications don't have access to it and it is never uploaded online, but until the device is out there is no way to verify it.

They don't even say fingerprints are not uploaded:

According to the press release, "fingerprint information [...] is never stored on Apple servers or backed up to iCloud." But nowhere do they claim it doesn't ever leave the phone. It looks like this leaves Apple the option to upload the data to "trusted partners".

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2013/09/10Apple-Announces-iP...

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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> But you are accomplishing absolutely nothing here. Being annoying and ineffective doesn't help your cause. Do you know that Jesus loves you and he wants to save your soul? To quote him. Please explain how he "did no such thing"

He's talking about this submission, not this site. There are dozens and dozens of other submissions where NSA discussion is more on-topic, and anybody here is free to submit their own article on the topic for discussion. That way, people that want to discuss the NSA at that moment can do so, and people that want to talk about something else can do so, too. To put it another way: the problem is not the topic . It's th…

How is it not on-topic to discuss NSA surveillance in a discussion about one of the world's most popular internet-connected devices collecting biometric data under the control of a large American corporation?

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We non-US citizens have even MORE to worry about, because there are no laws to protect us and our privacy. We are open season.

If you are in Europe then you may have better enforced laws protecting you. If you are in Africa your government might not have the expertise and resources to spy on you. If you are in China, well...

I think he means that it is even easier for the US government to spy on you if you're outside of America, not that your domestic government might.

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But they are! And this is a very important issue to be dealt with. I'm very disappointed by all the companies and all governments involved, and I earn money writing iOS and cloud-applications. And I understand it's bad for business, but the issue is too important to be ignored. So yes, by all means, keep talking about it.

Do keep talking about it. In threads which actually have something to do with it. Not every single thread about anything.

The new iPhone will have an option to store your fingerprint. This has EVERYTHING to do with the NSA. It is highly relevant. How can you be so blind and not see it?

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Now that we have to consider the iPhones to be backdoored by the NSA, I wonder whether I really want to give them my fingerprint together with the rest of my data. I'm also not so sure whether a fingerprint can't still be easily faked (like it was possible on that Mythbusters episode for example). Personally, I think I'd rather stay with my passcode. Did you btw know that you can turn off "simple passcode" and then u…

Urgh. When do we get to the point where I can read HN without a snarky NSA comment being voted to the top?

I agree with you. I came here for some insight on the new tech/software, got a mega long NSA rant thread instead.

It's like any new product/app created will now get some NSA snark unless its a link to a github repo. And even then I'm sure there are ways...

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This is the exact sort of attitude that has permitted us to get to the point where we even have to have a conversation about the government being engaged in massively intrusive spying programs. "I don't want to hear your whining about it" is a means of condoning these actions through silence. You are a part of the problem. If you can comprehend what is going on here, you should be loud and obnoxious about it. Get peo…

Sorry, you aren't going to change anyone's political opinions by yelling louder. There are plenty of people who are comfortable with the NSA, as well as plenty of people are not. We really can't discuss the finer points here because no matter how polite I am, I will simply get voted down for not agreeing with the HN politics. By the way, recently I heard a few tech heavy-weights come out in favor of the NSA (e.g. Lar…

Sorry, you aren't going to change anyone's willingness to talk about the NSA spying be complaining louder.

If you are comfortable with the current NSA behaviour, you are part of the problem.

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Why would you believe that the radios are actually off when in airplane mode?

Generally speaking, because some regulatory agency or other would refuse or revoke certification of a device that has a "disable radio" feature that doesn't work. I wouldn't assume that a device is incapable of accumulating GPS tracking information in "airplane mode" and forwarding it when the radio is turned back on, however, or that intelligence and law enforcement agencies would never quietly disable "airplane mod…

The same government that backdoored the phone?
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