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Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Very disappointing that they couldn't get the 5C closer to the rumored $399 or $450 off-contract prices... $549 is very steep for 1-year old technology wrapped in a $2 plastic case. I'd sell my AAPL stock today (if I had any left) before Wall Street crunches their numbers.

If you knew anything about trading in the first place, you'd know that you can always sell short.

My statement implies a non-positive outlook for AAPL. Short selling implies a negative outlook. See the difference?

PS: No need to lecture me on basic finance, unless you've also been on the management team of a $16bn equity fund.

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Not on high resolution cameras designed to record them attached to your identity.

Actually, my gym (24 Hr Fitness) uses fingerprint scanners to sign people in. I hadn't really given it much thought before, but indeed, it would be possible for their system to be compromised and for my fingerprint data to be released into the wild...

Unless you have to also swipe a card in which case the fingerprint might be stored on the card. That how it's done where I live since you can't store peoples fingerprints without a good reason.

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Yeah just fingerprint means someone could use your finger to unlock the phone while you're asleep in a cell / drugged / restrained / knocked out.

/ in the morgue

You're all assuming the finger is still attached to the rest of the body.

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I'd hypothesise it's more likely somebody will use your fingerprint to identify you than your eye colour. For example, at a crime scene if your fingerprints are found you can hardly say "oh, I don't trust my fingerprint so I won't authenticate with it, ignore that" - like it or not, it's seen as being at least something to investigate. On the flip side I imagine a witness who reports only "green eyes" won't have thei…

So... what is the fear here? That someone will steal your fingerprints and plant them at a crime scene?

Not the OP, but think a about it this way: your fingerprint is now in a central database backed-up by lots of processing power so someone can match it pretty quickly and, all of a sudden, you realize you can no longer commit anything "bad", ever, because "they" may catch you based on the data they have about you.

And to someone who may ask me "why would you want the freedom to do something bad?" I'll answer that three of the biggest monotheistic religions are based on a guy a girl who were allowed to do bad things (Adam and Eve). I'm agnostic myself but I find it pretty self-explanatory nevertheless , you just can't impose the lack of free-will on people.

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Apple was added to the PRISM program in 2010 iirc, and PRISM is a program designed for one purpose: surreptitious data collection.

Apple being added to PRISM would, from what I read, mean that content on Apple servers could be searched, not information stored on phones. If iPhones phoned home information on stored on phones, I'd expect there to be a huge shitstorm and ample evidence of suspicious traffic. Do we have any evidence _at all_ that this has happened?

Yes, NSA can specifically target iPhones, which I think happens by backdooring the computer which is used to sync the device. One of the NSA slides had a private photo from an iPhone of 'a former senior government official of a foreign country'. http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/how-the-nsa-spies-...

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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When I see Apple putting forward as a key feature the number of bits in their processor in a general public announcement... I'm really feeling the "new" product is not really new. In the past Apple was always laughing at the PC ads boasting processor speed and memory capacity.

Apple laughs at numbers-based ads when they are behind, and play up the numbers when they are ahead. Remember the Pentium snail ads? There's nothing surprising here. They have a spec advantage right now and they're playing it up. If and when they drop behind again, they'll be back to talking about more qualitative aspects.

> they'll be back to talking about more qualitative aspects.

The problem is that they hardly have qualitative aspects left that they can claim over the competition. They are engaged in a race to the bottom.

When the highlight of the keynote is a feature that has been available on cheap Thinkpads for five years, you wonder if Apple will ever innovate again.

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Apple was added to the PRISM program in 2010 iirc, and PRISM is a program designed for one purpose: surreptitious data collection.

Apple being added to PRISM would, from what I read, mean that content on Apple servers could be searched, not information stored on phones. If iPhones phoned home information on stored on phones, I'd expect there to be a huge shitstorm and ample evidence of suspicious traffic. Do we have any evidence _at all_ that this has happened?

All I mean is that if you're using all of Apple's iCloud services (email, calendar, safari, not to mention iPhone backups to iCloud), your phone already "phones home" with a ton of info.

We know that the info can be sucked out of Apple (or Google, or Faceboob, etc) if the NSA wants to (for now).

So if they have your fingerprint data ... or even the ability to suck stuff off your phone ... then ... well qed

look obviously I'm in the minority, in caring about my biometrics being "built in" at such a "ground level" to a device that has so much connectivity to "the cloud" ... if you're not disturbed by this, then fine. I'm ok, you're ok. It is ok to hold different views.

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"subpoena proof" ... hmm Do you believe disabling the reader in a software-setting is enough to be sure it's not working? I don't. With all these NSA concerns going about, having a hardware fingerprint-reader on your smartphone that you can't avoid touching is something to think about.

Stick a piece of tape over the home button. Problem solved. It's your hardware after all. If you're worried about it, take steps to protect yourself.

Will that work? 'The internet' (e.g. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57602245-37/iphone-5s-come...) claims the sensor uses capacitance, not a camera, so you might need tinfoil tape.
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