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Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by danabramov »

Pxtl wrote: post #137
rayiner wrote: post #108

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Apple has had premium and value lines before. Indeed, during the heyday of the Macbook, it was split into a premium aluminum and a cheaper polycarbonate model.

Yes, obviously the PC/Laptop side of the business has always had this kind of differentiation (also the pure-Mp3 player business), but the iOS stuff has avoided this since the inception of the iPhone. The iPad, iPod, and iPhone were just "size only". Now that Jobs is gone and competition has heated up, we're seeing Apple back away from that with the iPad mini and the 5s. It feels like a big shift for Apple.

>Now that Jobs is gone

Seriously, what does this have to do with the point you're making?

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by viscanti »

Pxtl wrote: post #83

I'm still weirded out by the idea that Apple has finally split the iPhone line into "premium" and "value" streams. It just seems so... un-Apple. The whole "last-year's-model" discount was a bit of a kludge, but still Apple stood out from the rest of the industry with such a simple product line - device, biannual release, size, that's it.

They split "premium" and "value" as soon as they released the 3G, and started offering an older model for half the price. This makes a lot more sense, because the value line is no longer just an old model. Now buyers of both get to have something to look forward to.

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by potatolicious »

pavlov wrote: post #112
seiji wrote: post #99

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Not on Hacker News. On Hacker News your press conference should alternate new feature paragraphs with apologies. "We have a new fingerprint sensor! But, you probably don't want to use it because privacy crazies online think Apple is a front for the NSA." "We're moving to a 64-bit architecture! But, geeks with low reading comprehension think it's not that useful because we have tiny RAM, so you should just ignore this…

The Lumia 1020 will be hard to beat for the title of "best mobile phone camera ever created".

In terms of raw sensor performance, certainly. The new camera moves the software stack forward in a way that Nokia didn't though - extremely high frame rate to "catch" the best moment, programmatic selection of said moments, merging of exposure information across multiple consecutive frames, etc.

As a photo enthusiast that part of the presentation was a lot more exciting than the (rather marginal) improvements to lens and sensor.

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by pyrocat »

ianstallings wrote: post #146
pilif wrote: post #73

Now that we have to consider the iPhones to be backdoored by the NSA, I wonder whether I really want to give them my fingerprint together with the rest of my data. I'm also not so sure whether a fingerprint can't still be easily faked (like it was possible on that Mythbusters episode for example). Personally, I think I'd rather stay with my passcode. Did you btw know that you can turn off "simple passcode" and then u…

I stopped having to worry about them keeping my fingerprints private when I turned 14. Turns out you need a license to drive a car down the road! How was I supposed to know?

You don't need to fingerprint to get a license, at least not in my state.

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by me2i81 »

ffrryuu wrote: post #67
Samuel_Michon wrote: post #31

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I think he meant ColorSync[1] or ICC support for color management. An image that uses a color space other than sRGB (like Adobe RGB or CMYK) will look different on iOS than it does on OS X. Apparently, iOS 4 did add ICC support in CoreGraphics for apps to use [2] but it seems to me that Apple’s apps don’t take advantage of it. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorsync [2] https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/rele…

Yeah, I want to calibrate ios screens. Using something like the i1 display pro. It made a huge difference on my computer monitors. I want a system wide color profile support, like what we have in Windows or OSX... Not a per app support.

Calibrating the screen and supporting embedded profiles in images are two different things.

It would be nice if images with embedded profiles rendered correctly to the screen, e.g. with Safari on iPhone, using a canned profile that assumes that Apple has correctly profiled the mean iPhone display and that the variance between particular screens isn't too high. From what I can tell the iPhone doesn't do color management at all and the display resembles sRGB enough to call it good enough for a consumer device.

On the other hand I'd assume that the number of people who would want to use an external colorimeter and make a profile for their particular iPhone was not a market big enough for anyone (let alone Apple) to bother with, and since the iPhone has no mechanism to actually use that profile, it's pointless except for the purpose of converting images to iPhone in a desktop app, but in that case why would you care about your particular iPhone?

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by ewang1 »

cocoflunchy wrote: post #130
nknighthb wrote: post #114

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I acquired a passport in 2010, and left the country that year, and the year after, and was never asked for my fingerprints. You may be thinking of a program that applies only to non-citizens.

Yes, you're right. Don't they ask for your fingerprints when you make a passport though? They do in France.

If you're part of the Global Entry program, they have all 10 prints as well.

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by danabramov »

lewispollard wrote: post #55
danabramov wrote: post #26

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Don't you think this would be a huge scandal, if it was revealed? Considering they specifically say it is not uploaded? Just saying. Why would they take such a risk?

The entire NSA thing to date is a huge scandal, and yet no one (outside of the tech community) seems to really care... Not many people are closing their accounts associated with NSA complicit companies.

Do you really fail to see the difference between disclosing user info already on the servers to the NSA under legal orders and announcing a new product after the leaks, claiming it does not send any data, and doing the exact opposite without any additional benefit? Why would Apple do this?

I don't recall reading NSA can now force companies to include finger sensors, and then force them to collect data they wouldn't be collecting otherwise.

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by hack_edu »

sliverstorm wrote: post #150
pilif wrote: post #109

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The problem is that I can't change my fingerprint. If it gets out by some third-party abusing the secret backdoor (or just abusing whatever other place you have your fingerprint stored), then they can potentially forge your fingerprint when committing a crime or when otherwise attempting to access resources you have access to. When a third-party loses your password, you change it and life goes on (you are not reusing…

They probably already have your fingerprint. I believe you usually have to give it to the DMV to get your license.

Which offers a perfect chance for cross-referencing!

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Post by therobot24 »

hjnilsson wrote: post #134
therobot24 wrote: post #113

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you can rub off your fingerprints, it does occur, however is not very practical (though better than cutting off your hand)

They'll grow back eventually. So cutting off is the only option.

I hardly doubt cutting them off is the only option. Tissue damage is definitely required, but burning (such as a chemical burn) would also work.
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