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Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by cwilson »

pilif wrote: post #73

Now that we have to consider the iPhones to be backdoored by the NSA, I wonder whether I really want to give them my fingerprint together with the rest of my data. I'm also not so sure whether a fingerprint can't still be easily faked (like it was possible on that Mythbusters episode for example). Personally, I think I'd rather stay with my passcode. Did you btw know that you can turn off "simple passcode" and then u…

Apple specifically stated that your fingerprint is stored and encrypted only on the A7 chip, and not iCloud or anywhere else.

It's mentioned in the video as well: http://www.apple.com/iphone-5s/videos/#video-touch

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by rodedwards »

nutate wrote: post #61
rodedwards wrote: post #53

Better photos, TouchID, snappier performance -- a traditional incremental Apple upgrade befitting the "S" moniker. I've long been wondering when/if Apple would take on NFC and things like payments more aggressively. I get the feeling that they're going to skip NFC entirely, and that TouchID is going to be a large part of processing transactions without the need for any physical device interaction (swipe/tap/bump). Ri…

The new PayPal Beacon works with bluetooth LE... NFC seems like a step back from that.

Hmm - I'm not familiar with Beacon, but will take a look.

In my mind, NFC has always sort of felt like a clunky way of imposing a physical constraint on what should be a purely electronic transaction.

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by Pxtl »

I'm still weirded out by the idea that Apple has finally split the iPhone line into "premium" and "value" streams. It just seems so... un-Apple. The whole "last-year's-model" discount was a bit of a kludge, but still Apple stood out from the rest of the industry with such a simple product line - device, biannual release, size, that's it.

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by janlukacs »

siglesias wrote: post #65
janlukacs wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

and that's why Nokia posted this: https://twitter.com/nokia_uk/status/377483408043036672/photo...

Ads of multicolored devices featuring content that matches the enclosure? Who would've thunk it? http://cl.ly/image/1U3i2F2v2r43

I actually played with a 620 for a day or two. Once you will hold them both in your hand it will make sense.

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by swamp40 »

sdoowpilihp wrote: post #40
ihuman wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They say that applications don't have access to it and it is never uploaded online, but until the device is out there is no way to verify it.

I would hope that they simply save a hash of the fingerprint with a reasonable level of collision built in to make it difficult to tie a hash to a single person's fingerprint (maybe ~10 people would have that hash?). I would imagine they could then use some sort of secret tied to the device id and hash pair to positively identify to the server. edit for clarity

So there are two things going on here.

1)They said the detection gets better every time you use it. So my guess would be that multiple versions of the raw fingerprint data are stored inside the A7 chip. (That information never leaves the chip.)

2) You can use your fingerprint to authenticate apps like iTunes, as well as third party apps. For this, yes I am sure they will use some hash that cannot rebuild the fingerprint.

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by seiji »

pilif wrote: post #73

Now that we have to consider the iPhones to be backdoored by the NSA, I wonder whether I really want to give them my fingerprint together with the rest of my data. I'm also not so sure whether a fingerprint can't still be easily faked (like it was possible on that Mythbusters episode for example). Personally, I think I'd rather stay with my passcode. Did you btw know that you can turn off "simple passcode" and then u…

Did you btw know that you can turn off "simple passcode" and then use a purely numeric longer passcode? In that case the iphone will still show the big easy-to-hit numeric keyboard allowing you to type in the arbitrary length numeric code.

Brilliant! I did not know that. I haven't been using Long Passcode Mode because I didn't want to type on the tiny keyboard to unlock 100 times a day.

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by mratzloff »

allsystemsgo wrote: post #30
knodi wrote: post #20

This is what I don't like about apple the 5s $199 version has 16GB and the 5c $199 version has 32GB. They should have at-lease giving us 24GB for 5s $199. Apple being apple trying to keep margins high. The new colors kind of suck but great for high school girls.

It took quite some time for me to fill up the 16GB. I'm more of a power user now, so I'll be upgrading to the 32GB but, for most 16GB is plenty.

My music alone fills up my 64 GB 4S. I am waiting for the 128 GB.
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