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Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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The leaks contribute to take away some of the awe. Yet, A7, M7, iOS 7, new camera, new flash, Touch ID. It looks new to me.

My "is it new?" test works this way: how would I explain what's new to my father (who is 74 years old and knows not much about tech). A7, M7, iOS 7, better camera and flash: not much to say. Touch ID OK that's new, but that's not much.

"The photos look way better" is pretty easy to describe.

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When I see Apple putting forward as a key feature the number of bits in their processor in a general public announcement... I'm really feeling the "new" product is not really new. In the past Apple was always laughing at the PC ads boasting processor speed and memory capacity.

Smartphone hardware is in the 9th inning. These devices have mostly hit the natural limits of what's achievable for now. Bad for Apple since this effectively levels the playing field.

Limits of what is achievable, or limits to what is useful for most users? I assume most users won't notice speed improvements anymore.

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Now that we have to consider the iPhones to be backdoored by the NSA, I wonder whether I really want to give them my fingerprint together with the rest of my data. I'm also not so sure whether a fingerprint can't still be easily faked (like it was possible on that Mythbusters episode for example).

Personally, I think I'd rather stay with my passcode.

Did you btw know that you can turn off "simple passcode" and then use a purely numeric longer passcode? In that case the iPhone will still show the big easy-to-hit numeric keyboard allowing you to type in the arbitrary length numeric code.

Yes. It's not as safe as a long alphanumeric password, but this gets annoying SO quickly, I'd rather type in my 8 digits.

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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When I see Apple putting forward as a key feature the number of bits in their processor in a general public announcement... I'm really feeling the "new" product is not really new. In the past Apple was always laughing at the PC ads boasting processor speed and memory capacity.

Apple laughs at numbers-based ads when they are behind, and play up the numbers when they are ahead. Remember the Pentium snail ads? There's nothing surprising here. They have a spec advantage right now and they're playing it up. If and when they drop behind again, they'll be back to talking about more qualitative aspects.

Isn't that what EVERY company does when it comes to marketing? I have never taken a single marketing class but I'd think putting emphasis on your strong points and gloss over your weak ones is common sense?

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They say that applications don't have access to it and it is never uploaded online, but until the device is out there is no way to verify it.

Even after the device is out it would be very hard(if not impossible) to verify it doesn't send fingerprint or hash of fingerprint online. There's plenty of places they can hide this.

This was my thought as well - how can you verify the fingerprint if you don't have a representation of it to compare to? Don't think there is much value just an internal comparison would have.

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Smartphone hardware is in the 9th inning. These devices have mostly hit the natural limits of what's achievable for now. Bad for Apple since this effectively levels the playing field.

Limits of what is achievable, or limits to what is useful for most users? I assume most users won't notice speed improvements anymore.

Both, although more so the latter.

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When I see Apple putting forward as a key feature the number of bits in their processor in a general public announcement... I'm really feeling the "new" product is not really new. In the past Apple was always laughing at the PC ads boasting processor speed and memory capacity.

Apple are hoping that journalists are lazy or rushing to meet a deadline, so they get headlines line "New iPhone is 40x faster than old iPhone!". They could have put "2x faster than iPhone 5" in their slides, but they deliberately chose to put 40x (referring to the original iPhone) and leave it slightly ambiguous.

That's how good marketing gains traction quickly. Count on the ignorant to do your bidding.

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My "is it new?" test works this way: how would I explain what's new to my father (who is 74 years old and knows not much about tech). A7, M7, iOS 7, better camera and flash: not much to say. Touch ID OK that's new, but that's not much.

I am sure you can find a way to explain, it is not that hard. Touch ID is a lot! No more password entering on iTunes. A godsend for someone who has a 26 characters passphrase like me.

If you're cautious enough to use a 26 character passphrase, why are you comfortable revealing how many characters your passphrase contains?

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The plastic they're using (hard-coated polycarbonate) is, I believe, the same plastic used on many of the Nokia Lumia phones which a lot of people say feel much higher quality than other, regular plastic phones. That said, the 5C is the cheaper option and it isn't going to feel as good as the aluminium of the 5S. I don't however think it will be anywhere near as cheap-feeling as other phones (e.g. the Samsung Galaxy…

and that's why Nokia posted this: https://twitter.com/nokia_uk/status/377483408043036672/photo...

Actually pretty classy and makes a great point. +1 Nokia.
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