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Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by nutate »

rodedwards wrote: post #53

Better photos, TouchID, snappier performance -- a traditional incremental Apple upgrade befitting the "S" moniker. I've long been wondering when/if Apple would take on NFC and things like payments more aggressively. I get the feeling that they're going to skip NFC entirely, and that TouchID is going to be a large part of processing transactions without the need for any physical device interaction (swipe/tap/bump). Ri…

The new PayPal Beacon works with bluetooth LE... NFC seems like a step back from that.

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by aw3c2 »

sdoowpilihp wrote: post #54
climatewarrior2 wrote: post #18

The NSA now will have a database of everybody's fingerprints!! Great :D

First of all, this is not a constructive comment. Second, they explicitly said that the fingerprint never leaves the phone (and believe me, people will be looking to verify. It would be a huge boon to a persons career to be the person that caught apple in that lie).

How are you going to check? iOS is closed-source. You cannot monitor the traffic 24/7 over the whole lifetime of the device. Maybe the fingerprint delivery can be ordered remotely.

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by mikeash »

alxbrun wrote: post #3

When I see Apple putting forward as a key feature the number of bits in their processor in a general public announcement... I'm really feeling the "new" product is not really new. In the past Apple was always laughing at the PC ads boasting processor speed and memory capacity.

Apple laughs at numbers-based ads when they are behind, and play up the numbers when they are ahead. Remember the Pentium snail ads? There's nothing surprising here. They have a spec advantage right now and they're playing it up. If and when they drop behind again, they'll be back to talking about more qualitative aspects.

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by Jtsummers »

rdl wrote: post #46
sdoowpilihp wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would surmise that is likely due to the iPhone 5C and iPhone 5 having very similar specs. A free iPhone 5 would cannibalize the 5C sales. Why pay 100 dollars for a color case? Then again, a number of people paid the "black tax" for their macbook a number of years back.

I wonder what this will do to the resale value of iPhone 5 64G Verizon. I'd upgrade from 5 -> 5S if it net cost were <$300, but it appears Priceonomics says it is $320-$450, and a new iPhone 5S 64G is $849.

Verizon iPhone 5 64GB black is listed as $370 on NextWorth so that's a maybe. I've had luck in past years of reducing my upgrade costs to under $100, but AT&T is being less generous on the contract period this time around (or it didn't line up as well as in the past).

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by siglesias »

janlukacs wrote: post #44
kaolinite wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The plastic they're using (hard-coated polycarbonate) is, I believe, the same plastic used on many of the Nokia Lumia phones which a lot of people say feel much higher quality than other, regular plastic phones. That said, the 5C is the cheaper option and it isn't going to feel as good as the aluminium of the 5S. I don't however think it will be anywhere near as cheap-feeling as other phones (e.g. the Samsung Galaxy…

and that's why Nokia posted this: https://twitter.com/nokia_uk/status/377483408043036672/photo...

Ads of multicolored devices featuring content that matches the enclosure? Who would've thunk it?

http://cl.ly/image/1U3i2F2v2r43

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Post by gareim »

rdl wrote: post #58
danabramov wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tim Carmody's tweet suggests you can still use the numeric code: https://twitter.com/tcarmody/status/377495998727483392

That's even worse. I want to be able to set, at my option: 1) PIN-only 2) FPR + PIN (where you must use iCloud to get in if your FPR doesn't read) 3) for morons, FPR only. I currently use a much stronger than 4 digit numeric PIN, but it is honestly a pain. If I could set both the FPR and PIN as required to get in, I could use a shorter PIN. If I'm allowed to bypass the FPR entirely, the PIN has to remain as strong as…

His tweet doesn't confirm or reject your #2 (just that PIN is available as an option), so just relax and wait to see. I mean, I doubt they'd implement FDR + PIN like you want (cause it seems a minority wish?), but it's still possible.

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by ffrryuu »

Samuel_Michon wrote: post #31
ihuman wrote: post #10

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What do you mean by color profile? Something like f.lux, where it changes the color of the screen?

I think he meant ColorSync[1] or ICC support for color management. An image that uses a color space other than sRGB (like Adobe RGB or CMYK) will look different on iOS than it does on OS X. Apparently, iOS 4 did add ICC support in CoreGraphics for apps to use [2] but it seems to me that Apple’s apps don’t take advantage of it. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorsync [2] https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/rele…

Yeah, I want to calibrate ios screens. Using something like the i1 display pro.

It made a huge difference on my computer monitors.

I want a system wide color profile support, like what we have in Windows or OSX... Not a per app support.

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by tiziano88 »

sdoowpilihp wrote: post #40
ihuman wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They say that applications don't have access to it and it is never uploaded online, but until the device is out there is no way to verify it.

I would hope that they simply save a hash of the fingerprint with a reasonable level of collision built in to make it difficult to tie a hash to a single person's fingerprint (maybe ~10 people would have that hash?). I would imagine they could then use some sort of secret tied to the device id and hash pair to positively identify to the server. edit for clarity

That's not how fingerprint scanners normally work I'm afraid...

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by Samuel_Michon »

ffrryuu wrote: post #67
Samuel_Michon wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think he meant ColorSync[1] or ICC support for color management. An image that uses a color space other than sRGB (like Adobe RGB or CMYK) will look different on iOS than it does on OS X. Apparently, iOS 4 did add ICC support in CoreGraphics for apps to use [2] but it seems to me that Apple’s apps don’t take advantage of it. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorsync [2] https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/rele…

Yeah, I want to calibrate ios screens. Using something like the i1 display pro. It made a huge difference on my computer monitors. I want a system wide color profile support, like what we have in Windows or OSX... Not a per app support.

I hear you. I too use the i1 display pro and I would love to review designs on my iPad without having to convert the files to sRGB first.
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