They say that there were ~5000 such searches per year, which makes them extremely rare occurrences given the hundreds of millions of people crossing the borders in a year.
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"I don't remember my password."
It's illegal not to provide your password in the UK, not sure what the rules are under these special powers in the US.
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Or make sure that they have full-disk encryption and are cold shutdown when you cross the border. While jurisprudence is still a bit fuzzy on this (it has flipped back and forth on a few appeals in a few separate cases, and never been conclusively decided by the Supreme Court), there have been ruling upholding the fact that you can't be forced to hand over your password due to the fifth amendment, unless the Governme…
Even with full-disk encryption, an image will be made of the drive, and the government will keep a copy on the chance that the password will be revealed later. Or the algorithm gets broken/weak enough at some point in the future.
Let's assume you have a device like a Macbook Pro or a Macbook Air, where you can't physically remove the drive without ungluing the device. You hotrod the firmware so only trusted USB devices with a specific encryption key are permitted to connect. How would the drive be imaged?
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or make sure that they have full-disk encryption and are cold shutdown when you cross the border. While jurisprudence is still a bit fuzzy on this (it has flipped back and forth on a few appeals in a few separate cases, and never been conclusively decided by the Supreme Court), there have been ruling upholding the fact that you can't be forced to hand over your password due to the fifth amendment, unless the Governme…
After the past week's NSA revelations, just what full disk encryption system should we be trusting? I think it's fair to assume that any commercial implementation is compromised.
If seized at the airport, it provides a useful bit of information on whether they can break filevault 2. It seems implausible they would even if they could without a "plausible non-cryptographic alternative".
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#25They say that there were ~5000 such searches per year, which makes them extremely rare occurrences given the hundreds of millions of people crossing the borders in a year.
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#27Would this only apply to files that are physically on the hard drive or would this also mean they may have access to connected cloud storage accounts like Dropbox or iCloud?
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#28Is the best strategy here to leave your devices at home and just bring a burner phone on holiday or other travels and no other devices? It's strange as an ordinary citizen who might choose to contribute to someone like Manning's defence fund, or post statements supportive of Snowden online, to have to consider that GCHQ or the Homeland Security might put your name on a list for questioning and confiscation at the bor…
Carrying a burner is itself also suspicious -- the safest course it to be as normal as possible which means having a regular computer/phone with some stuff on it, or nothing. Also, it isn't sufficient to focus the the border policies for re-entry to your own country, you also have to consider every country you would travel to, all of which have their own laws, all of which can change at any moment, even while you are…
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or make sure that they have full-disk encryption and are cold shutdown when you cross the border. While jurisprudence is still a bit fuzzy on this (it has flipped back and forth on a few appeals in a few separate cases, and never been conclusively decided by the Supreme Court), there have been ruling upholding the fact that you can't be forced to hand over your password due to the fifth amendment, unless the Governme…
After the past week's NSA revelations, just what full disk encryption system should we be trusting? I think it's fair to assume that any commercial implementation is compromised.
Also, I'm less worried about FDE being vulnerable to Border Patrol than about, say, SSL vulnerabilities across the whole network. The plausible deniability, which they would need to use to protect their sources if they found information, is a lot lower if you know you have been stopped and your laptop searched, rather than just tapping all internet traffic so you don't even know when you've been searched. Mac OS X's File Vault 2 and Windows's BitLocker are probably sufficient if if you aren't particularly paranoid about being individually targeted for something big, but I would be more inclined to trust the open solutions.
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Even with full-disk encryption, an image will be made of the drive, and the government will keep a copy on the chance that the password will be revealed later. Or the algorithm gets broken/weak enough at some point in the future.
Silly question. Let's assume you have a device like a Macbook Pro or a Macbook Air, where you can't physically remove the drive without ungluing the device. You hotrod the firmware so only trusted USB devices with a specific encryption key are permitted to connect. How would the drive be imaged?
Perhaps you could solve this by "hotrodding" the firmware, but it's not particularly obvious how you could do that without risking bricking your laptop.