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Business Insider CTO Forced to Resign Following Twitter Firestorm

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Re: Business Insider CTO Forced to Resign Following Twitter Firestorm

#101
Regardless of his views he seemed to imply a threat of violence in his tweet: https://twitter.com/paxdickinson/status/377191338930094081 "@anildash really, dude? You know we work in the same building right? Would you like to come call me an asshole to my face tomorrow?"

Yeah lawsuit waiting to happen.

Re: Business Insider CTO Forced to Resign Following Twitter Firestorm

#102
post #34

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He was in a position to hire people, and expressing views that clearly indicated bias towards certain protected classes. That alone would be cause for concern. I don't know that I"d advocate his firing, but I'd certainly question his authority to hire & fire staff based on the things he's said.

I'm not sure I see that bias. Did he ever indicate that he thought certain people were unfit for a job because of their gender, religion, etc.?

He made this public comment on a BI job posting thread [1]:

"@Liberal Insider: Haha, you'd feel pretty silly for writing that comment if you ever saw my twitter feed and read all the horrible things I say about Obama. :)"

[1]: http://www.businessinsider.com/hiring-mobile-apps-developer-...

Re: Business Insider CTO Forced to Resign Following Twitter Firestorm

#103
post #23

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He hasn't been removed from the industry, just from this job. If he's any good (which I have absolutely zero knowledge of) then he'll be back somewhere else before long. Hopefully with a new attitude.

Fair enough but when top-level executives are being removed for their inappropriate behavior hopefully people will start to notice that "hey, maybe I shouldn't act this way!" and our industry can actually be respectable once again. This guy is a lawsuit waiting to happen with a very vivid history. No company is going to place themselves at risk hiring this guy again. There's plenty of other respectable talent out the…

Respectable == toeing the Marxist/feminist line. You can have political opinions in public, as long as its left.

Meanwhile, this guy is still employed: https://twitter.com/anildash/status/370362753451827200

Also, "the economic catastrophe facing the global marketplace is a result of a failure of white culture in America."[2]

Because, hey!, we all know white people are crazy. Good thing businesses never have to hire white people.

[2] http://dashes.com/anil/2009/01/monoculture-is-bad-for-busine...

Re: Business Insider CTO Forced to Resign Following Twitter Firestorm

#104
post #43

why people who believe in meritocracy are termed anti-feminists? No I don't even remotely know Pax, heck this is the first time I heard of him. Guys seriously do you want to sink to the level of quota and reservation based on gender now? It is exteremely difficult to get talented and motivated people in tech, let us not put gender bias or elitism on people who care about their field (may be just their company/org). I…

"Is it so hard for all of us to accept that the most motivated, accomplished and talented people must be rewarded the most in our industry?"

Uh, who is arguing otherwise? Unless you're somehow saying that women are generally less motivated, accomplished, and talented than men.

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#105
post #23

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Fair enough but when top-level executives are being removed for their inappropriate behavior hopefully people will start to notice that "hey, maybe I shouldn't act this way!" and our industry can actually be respectable once again. This guy is a lawsuit waiting to happen with a very vivid history. No company is going to place themselves at risk hiring this guy again. There's plenty of other respectable talent out the…

Respectable == toeing the Marxist/feminist line. You can have political opinions in public, as long as its left. Meanwhile, this guy is still employed: https://twitter.com/anildash/status/370362753451827200 Also, "the economic catastrophe facing the global marketplace is a result of a failure of white culture in America."[2] Because, hey!, we all know white people are crazy. Good thing businesses never have to hire w…

http://valleywag.gawker.com/business-insider-ctos-is-your-ne...

Pretty sure this guy qualifies as a douchebag and not simply trying to toe the line in a politically correct world. That is, of course, my opinion - but I sure as fuck wouldn't want this sort of individual publicly representing my company and embodying sort of behavior we tolerate, embrace or promote.

Reply to Below- The tweets speak for themselves. No journalism necessary.

Re: Business Insider CTO Forced to Resign Following Twitter Firestorm

#106
post #105

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Respectable == toeing the Marxist/feminist line. You can have political opinions in public, as long as its left. Meanwhile, this guy is still employed: https://twitter.com/anildash/status/370362753451827200 Also, "the economic catastrophe facing the global marketplace is a result of a failure of white culture in America."[2] Because, hey!, we all know white people are crazy. Good thing businesses never have to hire w…

http://valleywag.gawker.com/business-insider-ctos-is-your-ne... Pretty sure this guy qualifies as a douchebag and not simply trying to toe the line in a politically correct world. That is, of course, my opinion - but I sure as fuck wouldn't want this sort of individual publicly representing my company and embodying sort of behavior we tolerate, embrace or promote. Reply to Below- The tweets speak for themselves. No j…

Hmm, I remember that author from somewhere. Yep, she's a shock troop in the battle to impose cultural Marxism[1].

[1] http://valleywag.gawker.com/dear-paul-graham-your-priorities...

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#107

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I would call supporting the objectification of women misogyny. Sure, it's not traditional "hatred" (But really, how many people hate all women in the traditional sense? Is that all people think misogyny means?), but it's a failure to value women as people. Regardless, it's more than just bad taste. At a professional event for a group that has terrible gender balance, glorifying the objectification onstage only furthe…

Let's be honest, the decision to fire Pax isn't about hiring female engineers so much as appeasing the lynch mob. I disagree with your definitions of misogyny, objectification, and all that. But you seem like a reasonable person and I'm sure we could have a good discussion over it. However, if at the end of the discussion I get fired for holding my side of the conversation, count me out.

You keep using the term "lynch mob." I do not think that means what you think it means.

Re: Business Insider CTO Forced to Resign Following Twitter Firestorm

#108
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post #51

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Where did you get the idea that "believing in anything" is the reason he got fired? It's quite simple (and already explained by rit). He posted numerous messages disparaging various groups - blacks, women, gays. He is responsible for hiring within the company. This places Business Insider in an utterly compromised position and in danger of lawsuits.

Yeah, But he is not announcing anything on behalf of BI right? There is an implicit disclaimer that all views are his not his employers (I am sure atleast he thinks that way). Yes BI is entitled to fire him as it portrays them in bad-light in public but that wouldn't attract lawsuits (may be american law is fucked-up). I don't know.

> Yeah, But he is not announcing anything on behalf of BI right

So? Even aside from the PR (and potential advertising sales) aspects -- which are probably the main factor -- anything he says in public on behalf of himself is, even if not made on behalf of the company, evidence that can be used to establish his motive in any decision he makes on behalf of the company (e.g., hiring/firing) in the event of a lawsuit.

Re: Business Insider CTO Forced to Resign Following Twitter Firestorm

#109

For all the value of political correctness in the workplace, someone just lost their job for their honest views, because some found them too ugly to bear. If you're still thirsty for more ugly truth, check out a Twitter search for @paxdickinson just now. Apparently to many, honesty is objectively worse than endless vengeful hate. I don't support anything this guy said, but clearly some of it was sarcasm, and as for t…

Somebody just lost the privilege of being senior management over acting like someone who can't lead by example and put his firm in a bad light. He didn't lose his job as night watchman. You want to be a leader, you have to act the way you expect people in your company to act. If you think this is just 'political correctness', you're wrong. It's about leadership and not having a company culture of being a bunch of a-h…

I guess HN kills these discussions because they bring out the trolls and show YC in a pretty bad light.

Re: Business Insider CTO Forced to Resign Following Twitter Firestorm

#110
post #27

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What was the debacle at Disrupt?

You wouldn't have heard about it if you only read Hacker News - users systematically flagged any reference to it off the site. The 21st Century equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and saying "la la la la" Worth pointing out that the exact same thing has now happened to this thread.

GP didn't ask why he hadn't heard about it, he asked what it was.
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