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Meet the Family That Shuns Technologies Introduced After 1986

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Re: Meet the Family That Shuns Technologies Introduced After 1986

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Nothing new to see here, we've seen those experiments countless times before. If one of them falls sick, they'll be glad for 2013 medical practices and technology.

I agree, the better thing is to be selective. Dump the TV, and control the other devices. Sign me up for the most modern MRI that my health plan (which I hope doesn't have a tape drive for my records) will pay for.

Re: Meet the Family That Shuns Technologies Introduced After 1986

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post #13

Nothing new to see here, we've seen those experiments countless times before. If one of them falls sick, they'll be glad for 2013 medical practices and technology.

Why should we openly accept every new technology?

Because technology in itself is not good or evil. Technology is a tool to be used if you think it brings something of value to you. If you think your kid is spending too much time on the iPad or on the PS3 and that he should spend more time outside, address this point.

As another commenter pointed out [1], this is more a case of brainless dogma than anything else. The fact that the father is having a hard time finding a job because job applications have to be done online is a nice example of that.

Western culture (I can only speak for this one) too often goes to the extremes to address subtle points, and we end up with movements like "no technology in the house whatsoever" or "protein only diet". Sudden changes sound good on paper ("from now on, I'm going to work out 5 hours a day every day!"), but pervasive progress more often comes from changes in small every day actions and habits.

[1] : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6357382

Re: Meet the Family That Shuns Technologies Introduced After 1986

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post #3

Seems kind of harsh on the kids. Sure they don't need tech to play and won't notice it immediately but tech proficiency is so important and this day and age and he's setting his kids back with this, I want to say selfish, project.

Having an Apple ][ for a year would probably be far more educational than an ipad.

Re: Meet the Family That Shuns Technologies Introduced After 1986

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post #23
post #3

Seems kind of harsh on the kids. Sure they don't need tech to play and won't notice it immediately but tech proficiency is so important and this day and age and he's setting his kids back with this, I want to say selfish, project.

Having an Apple ][ for a year would probably be far more educational than an ipad.

About electronics and low-level software, probably so. About nearly any other topic, almost surely not.

Re: Meet the Family That Shuns Technologies Introduced After 1986

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post #23
post #3

Seems kind of harsh on the kids. Sure they don't need tech to play and won't notice it immediately but tech proficiency is so important and this day and age and he's setting his kids back with this, I want to say selfish, project.

Having an Apple ][ for a year would probably be far more educational than an ipad.

They don't even have to go back to the Apple II: the first Macintosh was released in 1984.

Re: Meet the Family That Shuns Technologies Introduced After 1986

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post #3

Seems kind of harsh on the kids. Sure they don't need tech to play and won't notice it immediately but tech proficiency is so important and this day and age and he's setting his kids back with this, I want to say selfish, project.

You do have a point in that it's a bit unfair to kids to deliberately make them look odd to all their peers, and they likely will rebel mightily at some point, but I don't really think it will hinder them in proficiency over the long term, especially if they've been encouraged to "hack" and be creative in other ways.

Re: Meet the Family That Shuns Technologies Introduced After 1986

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Has the Atlantic ever heard of the Amish?

Yes, and they can even distinguish between the years 1886 and 1986.

Is it really that fascinating to cover a single family living in 1986 when a half million people in the US still live essentially in 1886?

Re: Meet the Family That Shuns Technologies Introduced After 1986

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, and they can even distinguish between the years 1886 and 1986.

Is it really that fascinating to cover a single family living in 1986 when a half million people in the US still live essentially in 1886?

The Amish selectively choose what's allowed, then add on all sorts of arbitrary stuff. Own a computer? OK, but someone else runs it and it must be for business. Phones? Sure, but 100 yards from the house. Tractors? OK, but no rubber wheels.

Sure, the rationale is to make sure none of those things "pollute" their lives or allow them to mingle with the outside world. It's still quite cultish though and it's sad so many kids are forced to deal with it.

Re: Meet the Family That Shuns Technologies Introduced After 1986

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having an Apple ][ for a year would probably be far more educational than an ipad.

They don't even have to go back to the Apple II: the first Macintosh was released in 1984.

The Mac is/was a competitor to the PC; it's a general purpose computing device. The Apple II was designed to be a hackable computer for hackers while also being terrifically capable as a GP machine.
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