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Re: Bing Is Live

#51
I really, really like it. I could actually see myself using this.

1. Super fast.

2. Image search is far superior to Google's.

3. Travel search is great. Try "deals to hawaii".

4. I like the name. Easy to remember and only 4 letters.

5. Weather searches work great.

6. I like the related searches and search history on the left.

7. I like the wikipedia integration.

Re: Bing Is Live

#52
post #51

I really, really like it. I could actually see myself using this . 1. Super fast. 2. Image search is far superior to Google's. 3. Travel search is great. Try "deals to hawaii". 4. I like the name. Easy to remember and only 4 letters. 5. Weather searches work great. 6. I like the related searches and search history on the left. 7. I like the wikipedia integration.

What do you like about the Wikipedia integration? I don't see the value in republishing Wikipedia: http://www.bing.com/reference/semhtml/Melbourne?q=melbourne&...

Re: Bing Is Live

#53
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The core algorithm is the same as Live's, but there is more to a search engine than ten blue links. Did the marketing actually say it was a whole new algorithm/indexer? It'll be interesting to see if the extraneous features catch on or not. The treatment of large companies is nice: http://www.bing.com/search?q=fry%27s

Well, .. I'll give it a second look. Maybe they know it'll take $100 Million to explain why it is better to people, including me. I can accept that possibility.

Getting people to seriously try a new search engine does take some work. The $100 million is probably an attempt to overcome the branding effect described in this article a week ago: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=626960

Re: Bing Is Live

#54
Hmm, I wonder how much of the difference in search results come from people intentionally gaming Google vs ignoring Bing/Live?

I did a sample search ("rack mount computers") and found 3 different areas for ads on Bing and a single area (well, google shopping, which isn't 100% the same thing) on Google. You'd think with this being MS, they'd burn profitability (e.g. ads) in exchange for market size?

One good point for Bing, however: the results page isn't as 1994ish as Google. Good use of color, less blaring blue-and-underlined text, and an actual layout.

The nebula graphic, however, doesn't make any sense to me. I think Google's pages could use an overhual -- not more stuff on there, just clean up the colors and graphics a bit, like the ubuntu version of google's search page.

Edit: also, the hover box doesn't show up reliably for me (FF3, Opensolaris). When it does show, it matches the background so well I hadn't noticed it until others had mentioned it here.

Overall, a good point's made from this: the search game is probably going to shift towards context sensitivity and user experience. General search is an area where multiple parties (Google + MS) can do a decent job.

Re: Bing Is Live

#55

First thing I did as a good SEO nerd/startup CEO was to see how Bing treated http://www.dawdle.com - and I have to say I'm mildly impressed, but disappointed overall. On the plus side for Bing, the hover-over shows the information we want the user to see, and manages to highlight our five most popular platforms. (Not the first five in our header, which is very impressive.) Google doesn't do the site links for us, eve…

Being less specific gives you a pretty decent result, though. Try plain old Zelda, then shopping: http://www.bing.com/shopping/search?q=zelda&mkt=en-US&#3...

Re: Bing Is Live

#56
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If I type "es_msg" into Bing I get exactly what I'd expect, the documentation for a function. When I type it into Google I get "did you mean tos_msg" which drives me batty. And the top two results are useless. The third result is correct. Bing's "Help" is actually really nice and very fast (in Chrome). Or at least I found it easy to navigate through it. Bing isn't indexing bug.gd error/solutions properly, though, so…

"tos_msg" -- interesting that Google is picking up on TinyOS and suggesting the term accordingly. May be an indication that they weight universities highly, since TinyOS started as a university project?

Re: Bing Is Live

#57
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Too noisy. With all the extraneous stuff on the page, I keep misreading the name as Bling. Fast though. At least they understand that much about why Google won. It's funny to think that after all the engineering expertise that must have gone into this, they're going to lose because of UI design.

Hm. The nebula and color gradients feel unnecessary to me, but I think there's potential for innovation in having the recommended searches prominently located on the left sidebar - provided that the recommendations are intelligent enough.

I've thought on more than one occasion while burrowing down with repeated queries that search should involve more of the machine prompting me and less of me guessing at the right keywords. Bing's UI promotes that behavior, whereas my eyes just skip over the recommended queries at the bottom of Google.

Re: Bing Is Live

#60
post #4

Too noisy. With all the extraneous stuff on the page, I keep misreading the name as Bling. Fast though. At least they understand that much about why Google won. It's funny to think that after all the engineering expertise that must have gone into this, they're going to lose because of UI design.

I think they will lose because their rankings are still worse than Google for queries that are not so popular.
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