I guess this means well and I hate to say it -- but this is largely pointless. Even this were as persuasive as hell, the Liberals just gained government by bashing the NBN plans (amongst other things). They're not going to change.
I want the NBN
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Re: I want the NBN
#12The top of the page tells me nothing about what they're campaigning for. FTTN? NBN? FTTH? English people. English! I'm not even sure if this is a parody. The Liberal Party of Australia: Reconsider your plan for a 'FTTN' NBN in favour of a superior 'FTTH' NBN Australia needs the right NBN. Vote at change.org if you agree!
And yes, I realize the change.org site has more details. But once again, the whole top of that page has no actual info in the title except a bunch of acronyms.
In Australia, where this petition is relevant, these acronyms are well understood by the public and don't need further explanation.
Re: I want the NBN
#13The top of the page tells me nothing about what they're campaigning for. FTTN? NBN? FTTH? English people. English! I'm not even sure if this is a parody. The Liberal Party of Australia: Reconsider your plan for a 'FTTN' NBN in favour of a superior 'FTTH' NBN Australia needs the right NBN. Vote at change.org if you agree!
To help others decode the acronyms, and to explain the situation...
In 2009, the Australian Labor Party, in power as the federal government of Australia, initiated construction of Australia's National Broadband Network (NBN). The network is replacing copper phone lines across Australia with a new fibre to the home (FTTH), also known as fibre to the premises (FTTP) network, meaning optical fibre will be run around the country, down every street, through every front yard, and into our houses (except some regional areas, where satellite will be used).
Two days ago, a federal election was held. The Australian Labor Party was defeated by the Coalition, an alliance led by the other major political party in Australia - the Liberal Party. The Liberal Party's policy for the NBN is to build fibre to the node (FTTN) instead, meaning optical fibre will be run to cabinets on street corners, which will service small areas, but the existing copper lines will still be used for the "last mile".
The petition is to convince the Liberal Party, now in power, to stick with the original plan of FTTH.
Re: I want the NBN
#14The top of the page tells me nothing about what they're campaigning for. FTTN? NBN? FTTH? English people. English! I'm not even sure if this is a parody. The Liberal Party of Australia: Reconsider your plan for a 'FTTN' NBN in favour of a superior 'FTTH' NBN Australia needs the right NBN. Vote at change.org if you agree!
Clark and Dawe had a go at it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TptIs0k-spg
I think they did another one too (Fibre To The Boat) but can't seem to find it.
FTTN - Fibre To The Node
FTTH - Fibre To The Home
NBN - National Broadband Network
Re: I want the NBN
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
And yes, I realize the change.org site has more details. But once again, the whole top of that page has no actual info in the title except a bunch of acronyms.
In Australia, where this petition is relevant, these acronyms are well understood by the public and don't need further explanation.
I am in Australia and these acronyms are not well understood by the public. Luckily jdaley explained these well in his comments above.
Re: I want the NBN
#16The top of the page tells me nothing about what they're campaigning for. FTTN? NBN? FTTH? English people. English! I'm not even sure if this is a parody. The Liberal Party of Australia: Reconsider your plan for a 'FTTN' NBN in favour of a superior 'FTTH' NBN Australia needs the right NBN. Vote at change.org if you agree!
Yay for Github, Someone else did this for me.
Re: I want the NBN
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Read the message at the top of the site, it is a petition to the libs.
Yeah, I know. I even signed it. They won't ever do it. That would involve logic and a basic grasp of technology.
I find it rather scary that they write policies on things they don't understand, or want to.
Re: I want the NBN
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
In Australia, where this petition is relevant, these acronyms are well understood by the public and don't need further explanation.
I am in Australia and these acronyms are not well understood by the public. Luckily jdaley explained these well in his comments above.
This is exactly the problem. Also, the vox populi interviews in newspaper from older people saying "25 mbps is fast enough" makes me rage so hard.
Oh, 25 Mbps is fast enough? So if I were to offer you $25 or $1000 which would you take?
Ugh. The NBN is a good idea, but poorly sold to the older generation who cannot seem to grasp the idea of its importance,
Re: I want the NBN
#19I do really want the NBN to be the best it can be, but I really really really want a proper debate about the issue. Arguments should not be as one-sided as either "the Coalition's plan is crap, because it's slower" or "Labor's plan is crap, because it costs more". Instead, the debate needs to be about whether or not the extra speed is worth the cost. We aren't currently seeing this sort of debate. The Coalition says…
Because it's technical, nuanced and wholly ends up bound up in "well I just didn't trust labor to do it".
It requires comprehending civil works project scale, scope, duration and expected lifetimes, the logistics and finances of managing large infrastructure works and a mind open to the idea that the internet isn't "just for games or something".
So, not going to happen ever - but for what it's worth, I fully expect the Coalition to quietly keep going with FTTP since winding back the NBN doesn't save them any money with it spooling up - the money has been borrowed, but not borrowing it doesn't suddenly put the budget in the black. Instead you just don't get a future major asset, and do get to keep the maintenance costs of the old network.
Re: I want the NBN
#20Step 1 (now): Fibre to the node
Step 2 (later, on an incremental basis): Fibre to the home
Why do we need to do both steps at the same time? The last mile is incredibly expensive and difficult (as the slow rollout of Labour's scheme has demonstrated). Doing fibre to the node now doesn't stop us from having it to the home at a later point in time, as demands increase.