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'Titstare' app at TechCrunch: women in tech deserve better

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Re: 'Titstare' app at TechCrunch: women in tech deserve better

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This is actually a good example why you should have a code of conduct as a conference. Bad things on stage happen. As an organizer, you can now write an apology that sounds like the one techcrunch wrote:

http://techcrunch.com/2013/09/08/an-apology-from-techcrunch/

Or, if you had a CoC, it could sound like this:

* "Sorry, we had people on stage that violated the rules we agreed upon beforehand. They were expelled from the conference immediately."

Re: 'Titstare' app at TechCrunch: women in tech deserve better

#52
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Frankly, TitStare was quite funny. In despite of being tits-related, i can't see how a woman could find it offensive (maybe because she has tits too? i can't see the correlation). It's more about lonely developers staring at tits. It's funny to see how the tech industry is passing thru its "feminist" age and just can't understand that THERE ARE differences between men and women, which doesn't mean anyhow that one is…

//i can't see how a woman could find it offensive // Feminism won't be required the day men understand why a woman would find it offensive. Imagine being a man in a room full of women in a society ruled over by women and all women are laughing at a penis stare app. Today you'd say "Oh I would find it funny too", but that's male privilege. We live in a male dominated society so you fail to see why women would not find…

It already happens.

Women laughing at a man having his penis cut off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDjUjhexTQk&hd=1

Re: 'Titstare' app at TechCrunch: women in tech deserve better

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It is a very manly gesture that implies a mental image of the someone else being the subject of the gesture. But first of all, it is very immature and tasteless and shouldn't be done on stage.

The pictured "other sex" could as well be the "same sex" for all you know -- OMOPHOBIA! CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE! I'm just joking, of course, and I agree that this app was immature and not deserving of any space at Disrupt (and goes doubly for Titstare, horrifying). Still, this whole PC thing sometimes can feel like walking on eggshells, as I've just demonstrated to you.

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Re: 'Titstare' app at TechCrunch: women in tech deserve better

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a very manly gesture that implies a mental image of the someone else being the subject of the gesture. But first of all, it is very immature and tasteless and shouldn't be done on stage.

The pictured "other sex" could as well be the "same sex" for all you know -- OMOPHOBIA! CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE! I'm just joking, of course, and I agree that this app was immature and not deserving of any space at Disrupt (and goes doubly for Titstare, horrifying). Still, this whole PC thing sometimes can feel like walking on eggshells, as I've just demonstrated to you.

>Still, this whole PC thing sometimes can feel like walking on eggshells

Important stuff is rarely easy or simple.

Re: 'Titstare' app at TechCrunch: women in tech deserve better

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I'm tired of seeing everything linked to sexism in tech. Moreover, sexism isn't a female only problem: try (as a male) to get a job in a kindergartn or a nursery school.

Feminism is about the equality of opportunity and power . You cannot create a picture of equal sexism by demonstrating a low-power, low-economic status, low opportunity-of-career-advancement role (that has traditionally been a female-only occupation due in-part to traditional gender-specific roles around child-rearing) where men who choose to enter it are viewed with scepticism. Especially if that role includes close…

"Sexism is a female only problem and will continue to be as long as men hold most of the power and are afforded most of the best opportunities."

Can you name one company who wouldn't take a more competent female developer over a male developer?

Re: 'Titstare' app at TechCrunch: women in tech deserve better

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Let me understand, anything sex-related which isn't expressed in scientific or moral terms has to burn in hell, right? Mainly because it is "objectifying" and insulting. Sometimes having a good laugh is a lot smarter than creating a political situation out of nothing. I think this is the case.

"Titstare" was designed to allow men stare at women's breasts. In other words, for one reason only: objectification of women and their body parts. If you can't see that here, I'm not sure what else to say to you!

What if, let's just make this hypothetical for a second, woman want men to stare at their breasts? Would you still have an issue?

Re: 'Titstare' app at TechCrunch: women in tech deserve better

#60
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It is about sexism. Tell me that this is not sexist? https://mobile.twitter.com/HateYouCards/status/3767351904348...

Is it sexist to like tits?

No. I like them quite a bit. But it is sexist to make an app to encourage men to ogle random women's breasts and submit photos while doing so, to an audience of men and women.
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