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London student reported to police: “Enchanted by anarchism and individualism”

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Re: London student reported to police: “Enchanted by anarchism and individualism”

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Post by fnordfnordfnord »

bolder88 wrote: post #46
omarrr wrote: post #7

Doesn't sound like the kind of teacher I'd like in my university Asked what had first inclined him to contact the police, Mr. Szemalikowski said “the fact that Kinnan has mentioned the ideologies of anarchism and individualism on this blog.” Digging himself even deeper, the headteacher added, “I must do something. In the last year he has become more and more enchanted by antiestablishment ways of thinking and has eve…

Read the blog. Doesn't seem like the kind of kid I'd like in my university...

What's the kind that you would like?

Re: London student reported to police: “Enchanted by anarchism and individualism”

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Post by jlgreco »

yummyfajitas wrote: post #117
jlgreco wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is a wikipedia article on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronemics I am not going to pretend to be able to understand it, but this part seems to be the most lucid explaination: "Just as monochronic and polychronic cultures have different time perspectives, understanding the time orientation of a culture is critical to becoming better able to successfully handle diplomatic situations. Americans, for instance h…

Future time orientation is also used to refer to a person having a low discount rate. I.e. suffering the pain of school now is worthwhile if it helps me avoid the pain of being uncredentialed in the future.

Huh. Well if that is what they mean, then I am at a complete loss as to how that isn't obviously a positive trait.

Re: London student reported to police: “Enchanted by anarchism and individualism”

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Post by droithomme »

corresation wrote: post #68
dmix wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Canada this week, my girlfriend is required to visit the dean of a [top Canadian law school] for calling a girl a "bitch" on Twitter. Backstory is interesting, because the girl had bullied her in person at school. GF never identified the girl on Twitter only saying "Some bitch blah blah at school today". But because she mentioned the school name, the dean found out and now wants to talk to her. There's apparently…

I don't think expecting basic good judgment of those in law school is 'scary'. Further it is worth mentioning that hateful speech is not protected in Canada, and while you could say that it was but a response, such a tweet is almost certainly in violation of several new anti-'cyber' bullying restrictions.

Hateful speech, such as calling someone a moron, an idiot, a dummy, a bitch, a fool, etc, is not the same as hate speech.

I have no doubt you are aware of this.

You are probably also aware that on the issue of laws regulating "hate speech" in Canada, which have generally been upheld by the Supreme Court of Canada, these laws are by Province and Territory. Saskatchewan’s Human Rights Code defines it one way, Alberta has another, B.C. has another, and the Northwest Territories have another.

Re: London student reported to police: “Enchanted by anarchism and individualism”

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Post by ronaldx »

muyuu wrote: post #79

Will he be accepted in Glasgow U?

The offer made by Glasgow to the student is guaranteed, as long as the student meets the conditions of the offer: typically a grade-based offer.

According to the original article, the student didn't meet the conditions of the offer. The university may now award a discretionary place... this decision could have been influenced by the principal, but is moderately unlikely anyway. The article notes that Zaloom will study at Portsmouth U instead. Good luck to him :)

http://www.camdennewjournal.com/news/2013/sep/headteacher-re...

Re: London student reported to police: “Enchanted by anarchism and individualism”

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Post by altero »

WalterBright wrote: post #109
dmix wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Canada this week, my girlfriend is required to visit the dean of a [top Canadian law school] for calling a girl a "bitch" on Twitter. Backstory is interesting, because the girl had bullied her in person at school. GF never identified the girl on Twitter only saying "Some bitch blah blah at school today". But because she mentioned the school name, the dean found out and now wants to talk to her. There's apparently…

Old Soviet joke: "The Soviet Union is just like the United States. In the US, you can criticize the American President. In the USSR, you can also criticize the American President!"

Interesting how silent we are. Obama is way worse than Bush ever was.

Re: London student reported to police: “Enchanted by anarchism and individualism”

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Post by AimHere »

carbocation wrote: post #72
AimHere wrote: post #70

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Defaming a third party by telephone would more likely be slander than libel, but it's certainly not clear that what went on here would be defamation at all. A defamatory statement must be a false factual allegation. As long as what the headmaster claimed was true, he should be safe from libel or slander lawsuits - saying "I don't like this guy's politics and you shouldn't take him on as a student." is a fair expressi…

Truth is an absolute defense to the claim of libel or slander in the US, but not in all worldwide jurisdictions.

It's also the case in the UK. What makes you think I was thinking of US libel law? I'm not American

Re: London student reported to police: “Enchanted by anarchism and individualism”

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Post by ceol »

aheilbut wrote: post #69
dmix wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Canada this week, my girlfriend is required to visit the dean of a [top Canadian law school] for calling a girl a "bitch" on Twitter. Backstory is interesting, because the girl had bullied her in person at school. GF never identified the girl on Twitter only saying "Some bitch blah blah at school today". But because she mentioned the school name, the dean found out and now wants to talk to her. There's apparently…

Just wanting to talk to her does not seem inappropriate. Lawyers in particular are expected to chose their words carefully and keep decorum. Perhaps it's a teachable moment.

Students represent their school, so no surprise a top law school would crack down on students spouting shit on Twitter, certainly when they also mention the school in their tweet.

Re: London student reported to police: “Enchanted by anarchism and individualism”

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Post by ceol »

jlgreco wrote: post #132
yummyfajitas wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Future time orientation is also used to refer to a person having a low discount rate. I.e. suffering the pain of school now is worthwhile if it helps me avoid the pain of being uncredentialed in the future.

Huh. Well if that is what they mean, then I am at a complete loss as to how that isn't obviously a positive trait.

Kind of proves their point, right? The way your culture views something is "obviously a positive trait"?

Re: London student reported to police: “Enchanted by anarchism and individualism”

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Post by mcantelon »

aheilbut wrote: post #69
dmix wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Canada this week, my girlfriend is required to visit the dean of a [top Canadian law school] for calling a girl a "bitch" on Twitter. Backstory is interesting, because the girl had bullied her in person at school. GF never identified the girl on Twitter only saying "Some bitch blah blah at school today". But because she mentioned the school name, the dean found out and now wants to talk to her. There's apparently…

Just wanting to talk to her does not seem inappropriate. Lawyers in particular are expected to chose their words carefully and keep decorum. Perhaps it's a teachable moment.

Wanting to spend time talking to her about an offhand, benign comment on social media doesn't seem "inappropriate", but it does seem ridiculous and intrusive.

Re: London student reported to police: “Enchanted by anarchism and individualism”

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Post by elnate »

eli_gottlieb wrote: post #121
yummyfajitas wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Future time orientation is also used to refer to a person having a low discount rate. I.e. suffering the pain of school now is worthwhile if it helps me avoid the pain of being uncredentialed in the future.

So... thinking that people should think ahead is racist?

They're conflating racism with enthnocentrism, the idea that one culture (usually yours) is better than others.
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