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Infectious disease doesn't care why you're unvaccinated

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Re: Infectious disease doesn't care why you're unvaccinated

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> Most people have not lived in a time of plagues or remember their effects. Most people do not read history or look at the morbidity and mortality of vaccine-preventable illnesses in the third world.

This is another great example of why people need to be taught actual history, not the version censored "for their young minds". The people who change curricula and edit textbooks to remove the unpleasant memories, or forward an agenda, do a disservice to everyone[1].

[1] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/14/backstory-how-the-t...

Re: Infectious disease doesn't care why you're unvaccinated

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Personally I recommend keeping vaccine exemptions but not encourage people to use them.

There is no reason to have a vaccine exemption unless there is a legitimate health reason (allergic reaction, etc.).

You have spoken, all interactions within biological sciences are decided. Thanks for that.

Re: Infectious disease doesn't care why you're unvaccinated

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no reason to have a vaccine exemption unless there is a legitimate health reason (allergic reaction, etc.).

You have spoken, all interactions within biological sciences are decided. Thanks for that.

If you have valid, replicatable evidence where vaccines cause harm, I'm all ears.

But if you're going to rely on anecdotal evidence, GTFO. I'm tired of hearing people not vaccinating their children and causing public health issues because they believe they're more informed than the CDC.

Re: Infectious disease doesn't care why you're unvaccinated

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post #2

Personally I recommend keeping vaccine exemptions but not encourage people to use them.

Just as long as the people who remain unvaccinated stay away from me, out of schools, the workplace, and other contact I agree with you. Everyone has the right to be vaccine free, but they don't have the right to be a disease vector and harm others.

In much the same way it's considered (very) rude to sneeze or cough in someone's face, it's also socially inappropriate to not be vaccinated.

In the first world, we don't actually understand how horrible it was prior to vaccines, (horrible doesn't begin to describe it) - so we think that being vaccinated is optional.

Re: Infectious disease doesn't care why you're unvaccinated

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The effectiveness of vaccines rely on 'herd immunity', that is: you need more than 90% of a population immunised to stop a disease spreading (as vaccines are never 100% effective)(also varies according to vaccine types/adjuvants and disease contagiousness)

So by not vaccinating your self/dependents you are actually extremely selfish as you are benefiting from herd immunity whilst at the same time avoiding the (small) side reactions each vaccine may have. This is one of the most selfish things you could ever do.

Re: Infectious disease doesn't care why you're unvaccinated

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post #6

Way to miss the point. This is so much bigger than just vaccines, encompassing distrust of authorities, misunderstandings about the existence of god, etc. But sure lets focus on vaccines.

> This is so much bigger than just vaccines, encompassing distrust of authorities, misunderstandings about the existence of god, etc.

If you get a horrible strain of the flu, very little of that will matter. Living to see tomorrow will matter.

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