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From beginning to end, the story of a failed parking startup

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Re: From beginning to end, the story of a failed parking startup

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post #4

This is 2 years old. Here's a better version: http://chrishoog.com/the-helloparking-postmortem-a-look-back... The last part is spot on, and says what you were probably just about to try to tell him (self-righteously I'd bet!).

Thanks for sharing. Somehow, in the wake of my new post my old one resurfaced...

Re: From beginning to end, the story of a failed parking startup

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The AirBnB of Parking. The ZipCar of Parking. The Priceline.com of Parking. The Groupon of Parking. There's your problem. You kept imitating other businesses instead of doing what makes sense for your customers.

It took me two years, but I figured that out exactly. This post is two years old. See mine from yesterday where I slap myself in the face: http://chrishoog.com/the-helloparking-postmortem-a-look-back...

Re: From beginning to end, the story of a failed parking startup

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post #7

Where possible, avoid creating a two-sided market unless there is asubstantial want or need on both ends. This seems like an over-generalization. I think the idea was a good one - more plausible than many others, and with an actual revenue model. I suspect that someone with better luck and/or execution will pull it off. Interesting and insightful story - thanks.

There are many startups like this: SpotHero (Chicago), ParkWhiz (NYC). I wonder if they are facing a similar fate, or what is different about them.

SpotHero is operating in Boston now, too.

Re: From beginning to end, the story of a failed parking startup

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I heard a rumor once, and I have no idea how true it may be. But the rumor goes something like this: parking lots, beyond being ridiculously lucrative and turn-key businesses, are also fantastic money-laundering or tax-dodging opportunities. And so many of them are owned by shady characters, or shady companies. These types don't necessarily want to deal with things like processing credit cards, or getting into paper…

That rumor actually makes sense.

I recently heard of a startup that is disrupting the valet industry by helping them get rid of their cash boxes (which apparently are prone to theft) and use mobile payments. They're lining up customers quickly because the product essentially pays for itself by resolving the theft problem alone.

I wondered why we haven't seen anything similar for parking spaces, but the tax dodging, money laundering idea seems like it nails it. These folks wouldn't want anything that creates a paper trail.

Re: From beginning to end, the story of a failed parking startup

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are many startups like this: SpotHero (Chicago), ParkWhiz (NYC). I wonder if they are facing a similar fate, or what is different about them.

SpotHero is operating in Boston now, too.

It seems all of those that are doing well (SpotHero, ParkWhiz) have strayed from the "rent my spot" model to the Parking yield management model...

Re: From beginning to end, the story of a failed parking startup

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Angel investors, especially, know that their money will go farther with a student who can live off cheap rent and Ramen noodles. Very true point. This seems to be behind YC too. The labor is cheap and the work ethic is high.

Ageism: it's awesome!

The More You Know™

Re: From beginning to end, the story of a failed parking startup

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I heard a rumor once, and I have no idea how true it may be. But the rumor goes something like this: parking lots, beyond being ridiculously lucrative and turn-key businesses, are also fantastic money-laundering or tax-dodging opportunities. And so many of them are owned by shady characters, or shady companies. These types don't necessarily want to deal with things like processing credit cards, or getting into paper…

If that's true, it might be lucky that the worst thing that happened to them was their business didn't work out! The Mob is not usually a group that takes kindly to being "disrupted" :D

Re: From beginning to end, the story of a failed parking startup

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I heard a rumor once, and I have no idea how true it may be. But the rumor goes something like this: parking lots, beyond being ridiculously lucrative and turn-key businesses, are also fantastic money-laundering or tax-dodging opportunities. And so many of them are owned by shady characters, or shady companies. These types don't necessarily want to deal with things like processing credit cards, or getting into paper…

That rumor actually makes sense. I recently heard of a startup that is disrupting the valet industry by helping them get rid of their cash boxes (which apparently are prone to theft) and use mobile payments. They're lining up customers quickly because the product essentially pays for itself by resolving the theft problem alone. I wondered why we haven't seen anything similar for parking spaces, but the tax dodging, m…

> These folks wouldn't want anything that creates a paper trail

If the tech community wishes to actually do something about widespread surveillance, it's going to have to come around to seeing this philosophy as a virtue.

Re: From beginning to end, the story of a failed parking startup

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Angel investors, especially, know that their money will go farther with a student who can live off cheap rent and Ramen noodles. Very true point. This seems to be behind YC too. The labor is cheap and the work ethic is high.

Ageism: it's awesome! The More You Know™

Perhaps more unfortunate than awesome. But I get the economics. And as someone on the other side... There are those who can afford the sacrifice, and those who prefer to wait until someone else has made that sacrifice. There's room for both.
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