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Re: Epic, The Privacy Browser

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Post by Sagat » Fri, Sep 06, 2013, 4:07 PM UTC

There is probably a backdoor for government agencies anyway.

Re: Epic, The Privacy Browser

#32

Post by metastart » Fri, Sep 06, 2013, 4:09 PM UTC

metastart wrote: post #19

nrivadeneira wrote: post #11

I still can't figure out why my browsing data being sold is objectively a bad thing. I don't see how it makes my day-to-day worse in any way. There are plenty of smart people who feel that it's bad, so maybe I'm just missing something, and I'm open to sound logic that convinces me that it's going to make my life worse. Also, the example they make at the bottom asking the reader to imagine hundreds of people following…

There are hundreds of companies that track you actually and they sell that data to many, many others. In an average hour of browsing, about 40 will try to track you. What you browse & search is very personal and very revealing - it's dangerous that anyone have that data and use it to determine what prices to charge you for goods, for insurance or whether you should even be offered a policy, or more e.g. searching for…

Thanks for the update to the pressure cooker/backpack article - nevertheless there was a police visit based on his googling which is a bit scary. There are many dangers you could imagine if what you search could be used against you (assuming it's not private).

Re: Epic, The Privacy Browser

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Post by metastart » Fri, Sep 06, 2013, 4:10 PM UTC

untothebreach wrote: post #23

I see under the download button it says, 'more versions coming soon'...happen to know when us linux users will get some love?

Soon we hope...we LOVE linux!!!! We're also a bit paranoid about backdoors and use linux often ourselves...

Re: Epic, The Privacy Browser

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Post by zedai » Fri, Sep 06, 2013, 4:11 PM UTC

This is really the need for the hour. I always loved chrome but never felt being tracked. Thats why i always used firefox instead. But this is exactly what i wanted. Also, being an INDIAN, i feel proud.

Re: Epic, The Privacy Browser

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Post by tptacek » Fri, Sep 06, 2013, 4:11 PM UTC

Sounds awesome. I'll definitely use this instead of the browser project whose TLS stack is maintained by one of the best known crypto software developers on the Internet, and run by the company that has almost singlehandledly mainstreamed TLS forward secrecy.

Re: Epic, The Privacy Browser

#36

Post by philip1209 » Fri, Sep 06, 2013, 4:12 PM UTC

cURL - the most secure way to browse the internet.

Re: Epic, The Privacy Browser

#37

Post by psycr » Fri, Sep 06, 2013, 4:13 PM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #35

Sounds awesome. I'll definitely use this instead of the browser project whose TLS stack is maintained by one of the best known crypto software developers on the Internet, and run by the company that has almost singlehandledly mainstreamed TLS forward secrecy.

Well, for the unenlightened, which one is that? Firefox? Chrome?

Re: Epic, The Privacy Browser

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Post by metastart » Fri, Sep 06, 2013, 4:13 PM UTC

hngiszmo wrote: post #28

WTF??? Guys, wake up! If it is not open source, it does not protect your privacy. Period. We see how other companies got coerced into breaking privacy for some dollars. The company-driven closed source development is flawed as long as we grant governments this power. What we need is not yet another startup that tries to make money on our private data (yeah, read Epic's FAQ how they make money). We need a stack of har…

Epic is open source...anyone who wants our source code, just write us!! Sorry we've been struggling to get the product ready and hadn't prepared to release all the code yet but will do it fast. Chromium is a huge code base & we're a small team so we hadn't gotten to it yet.

We don't make any money from anyone's private data or any data (period). We make revenues at this point exclusively from searches you do via our private search engine & always protect your searches' privacy.

Thanks for other ideas...others can comment...

Re: Epic, The Privacy Browser

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Post by metastart » Fri, Sep 06, 2013, 4:14 PM UTC

spolu wrote: post #15

3825 wrote: post #6

I don't mean to offend you but how does Hidden Reflex make money from and/or fund Epic, the Privacy Browser?

They also note that they are routing your searches through their proxy; right there they could monetize. But it would be self defeating...

Sorry not our proxy. A third party proxy powered by Spotflux.

Re: Epic, The Privacy Browser

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Post by hoers » Fri, Sep 06, 2013, 4:16 PM UTC

psycr wrote: post #37

tptacek wrote: post #35

Sounds awesome. I'll definitely use this instead of the browser project whose TLS stack is maintained by one of the best known crypto software developers on the Internet, and run by the company that has almost singlehandledly mainstreamed TLS forward secrecy.

Well, for the unenlightened, which one is that? Firefox? Chrome?

Chrom(ium), the open source foundation of chrome