iOS7 is not about flat • Hacker News Board

Re: iOS7 is not about flat

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Post by kamjam » Thu, Sep 05, 2013, 2:04 AM UTC

Domenic_S wrote: post #122

kamjam wrote: post #109

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This would be my biggest concern too. Due to the huge cost + tax of data plans here in Canada, I'm only on a 1GB per month plan :( I would need the ability to completely turn this off - which according to another comment here it will be.

Don't take this flippantly: have you checked to see how much data you're actually using? I did when switching carriers and was shocked at how little non-wifi data I was really using. I use plenty of apps, get they typical corporate load of emails, upload photos, read stuff on the internet... and my cellular usage was in the low hundreds. Which made sense thinking about it, wifi at home, wifi at work.

Yes, I actually do keep an eye on it, and have the limiter set on it. My phone (from the UK) doesn't play well with the networks here so I am restricted to EDGE :( Just about to buy a new phone so with LTE will get much faster speeds. I used up over 400mb this month on EDGE, with very restricted usage. Once I get full speed I know for sure I will use it more. My wifi usage is pretty high, 3-4GB per month. I would regularly use up 2-3GB month in UK due to YouTube and streaming music.

Re: iOS7 is not about flat

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Post by jordanthoms » Thu, Sep 05, 2013, 7:13 AM UTC

cpeterso wrote: post #117

arron61 wrote: post #73

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You mean like using Android's SyncAdapter and setting inInexactRepeating()? Android has supported this basic type of background scheduling since the start of time. The main difference is that Android you can do more - which can be abused. And their solution for abuse is a battery monitor that allows you to see which app is using the most battery. In a way you can say Android is more superior/powerful or you can say t…

Unfortunately, I think many Android app developers either don't know or care about "API abuse". When my Android phone is sitting "idle" with the display off, adb logcat still shows tons of debug logging from apps doing more work than they should. I like the freedom that Android gives developers, but, as you suggest, I think iOS provides a better user experience. I can think of many ways Google could fix some of this…

Yeah, some apps suck on Android, leave unnecessary services running etc. I uninstall them, and leave a review stating why.

Re: iOS7 is not about flat

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Post by Someone » Thu, Sep 05, 2013, 9:56 AM UTC

jakebellacera wrote: post #127

Someone wrote: post #101

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I prefer magic, too, if it works. I doubt it does in this case, though, and I get the impression Apple knows it hasn't nailed it yet, either. At least, elsewhere in this thread people note Apple's stuff can be overridden on a per-app basis. I also get the impression that Apple's idea about the perfect balance between flexibility and "it just works" neighs more towards the latter than Google's ideas about it, as witne…

While I do agree that iOS isn't nearly as flexible as Android, let's just say that 90% of the time you might want to go with a Sync adapter versus rolling your own solution. Also, I believe that Apple has the best intentions at heart when it comes to implementing Background Fetching in it's current spec. I mean, lets face it, it's way better to have a mobile-optimized OS manage resources than for you to do so, don't…

As I said, I prefer magic, too. More precise: The user in me agrees; the hacker disagrees. The hacker would like to see a 'make world' in each phone.

Re: iOS7 is not about flat

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Post by jrochkind1 » Thu, Sep 05, 2013, 8:46 PM UTC

leokun wrote: post #128

threeseed wrote: post #125

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And here comes the typical (and tired) one-two punch. 1. Blame something on Apple "fanboys" or commentariat. 2. When someone calls you out proclaim "but I use/like a Mac".

Maybe you should reflect on why some people who use and like macs are not fans of Apple fanboy commentary.

Maybe you should reflect on why some people who are not fans of Apple fanboy commentary are _also_ not fans of comments that exist for no purpose except complaining about Apple fanboy commentary, in vague complaints about how "those guys always say this, but look, now they say that!"

We are not fans of apple fanboy commentary, AND we don't care.

Re: iOS7 is not about flat

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Post by jliptzin » Fri, Sep 13, 2013, 8:05 PM UTC

jliptzin wrote: post #12

IMO iOS 7 is a textbook case of fixing something that's not broken.

Yes, I am a developer as well and have been using iOS 7 on my personal device for about a month now. I am only speaking about the UI - sorry I didn't make that clear. I prefer the previous UI. Easier to read and navigate and buttons/controls stand out more, which is important for a small touchscreen device. Control center is a small improvement, but iOS 7 UI is a step backwards for overall usability. That's just my opinion after 1 month of heavy use.