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A new breed of Chrome Apps

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Re: A new breed of Chrome Apps

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I was hoping this was away to wrap a webpage in chrome and distribute that, but it seems to require me to distribute it through there webstore. Given that they don't have a default monopoly on selling things over the web (unlike, say Android, where they have most of the users), why would I want to do that?

The technology is certainly interesting, if a bit limiting.

Re: A new breed of Chrome Apps

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an Android dev I can tell you this isn't happening in the next 5 years. They may add Chrome apps to Android, but it will be a niche option that won't be used by anybody. My utopic wish is a new open platform that will combine strengths of the web and of operating systems (Windows, Android): - Web: Great for documents, which it was originally designed for. Automatic updates. No installation. You can "fork" an app /…

Why, as an Android dev, do you say that?

Because, as an Android dev, I understand that both platforms have different strengths. Merge of the android and chrome/web platform, that would keep the strenths of both, is basically impossible. So the only possible scenario is making interative improvements to the chrome/web platform. But:

1) That would break backwards compatibility with Android apps. They would basically have to kill Android and replace it with Chrome OS Mobile.

2) Chrome OS platform is far, far behind Android (and operating systems in general) in many aspects.

Re: A new breed of Chrome Apps

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Chrome is now a serious security risk for me. it's just waiting to happen.

for now on, it will be used as the remote debugger for android browsers (until we have something native). just like i have a spare mac for running xcode for the same reason.

firefox serves me well. and will not make me worry much.

Re: A new breed of Chrome Apps

#34

Prediction: The much-anticipated convergence of Android and Chrome is near. These new Chrome apps are the programming model for the upcoming native Android webapps The next milestone I expect to see is V8 added alongside Dalvik as a first-class runtime for Android. Maybe in Android KitKat?

I don't know if the convergence will happen, but they certainly need to fix WebView in Android to at least allow migration. It's still using the old Android Browser and is severely outdated (no WebSockets, etc). My guess is that Chrome Packaged apps will be the replacement for WebViews on Android. Anyone who wants a stop gap though, should check this out: https://github.com/pwnall/chromeview

From the ChromeView github page:

"Attempting to scroll the view (by swiping a finger across the screen) does not update the displayed image. However, internally, the view is scrolled. This can be seen by displaying a stack of buttons and trying to click on the topmost one. This issue makes ChromeView mostly unusable in production"

Have you used ChromeView successfully in a production application? This seems like a deal killer.

Re: A new breed of Chrome Apps

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Prediction: The much-anticipated convergence of Android and Chrome is near. These new Chrome apps are the programming model for the upcoming native Android webapps The next milestone I expect to see is V8 added alongside Dalvik as a first-class runtime for Android. Maybe in Android KitKat?

As an Android dev I can tell you this isn't happening in the next 5 years. They may add Chrome apps to Android, but it will be a niche option that won't be used by anybody. My utopic wish is a new open platform that will combine strengths of the web and of operating systems (Windows, Android): - Web: Great for documents, which it was originally designed for. Automatic updates. No installation. You can "fork" an app /…

Why not? What if the apps are purchased seamlessly through the play store and can run on Android or in Chrome?

I have a feeling they will add more and more Android device APIs to whatever is coming, until it has just as many as the Java APIs.

I've thought for the past year or so that there is no way the future of Android app development is Java/Dalvik.

Re: A new breed of Chrome Apps

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why, as an Android dev, do you say that?

Because, as an Android dev, I understand that both platforms have different strengths. Merge of the android and chrome/web platform, that would keep the strenths of both, is basically impossible. So the only possible scenario is making interative improvements to the chrome/web platform. But: 1) That would break backwards compatibility with Android apps. They would basically have to kill Android and replace it with Ch…

Merge of the android and chrome/web platform, that would keep the strenths of both, is basically impossible.

Why do you say that? Add some APIs to the Android browser, allow it to open apps full-screen... there doesn't seem to be much more to it than that.

Re: A new breed of Chrome Apps

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One thing that I think is really cool about Chrome Apps is that you can write USB drivers in Javascript that will run on any platform that runs Chrome or Chromium. This means that if you want to make a hardware device that syncs with the cloud, all you have to do is write what is essentially a web app, and anyone with Windows, OS X, Linux, or Chrome OS can use your thing.

I'm personally working on a Chrome SDR app for the Funcube Dongle, so you can just install an app from the Web Store, plug the thing in, and start listening to any radio transmission from .5MHz to 2GHz. (The only snag is that the HTML5 audio API doesn't give you 192kHz sound samples, so I think I'm going to have to read them directly via USB. Fun.)

Re: A new breed of Chrome Apps

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One thing that I think is really cool about Chrome Apps is that you can write USB drivers in Javascript that will run on any platform that runs Chrome or Chromium. This means that if you want to make a hardware device that syncs with the cloud, all you have to do is write what is essentially a web app, and anyone with Windows, OS X, Linux, or Chrome OS can use your thing. I'm personally working on a Chrome SDR app fo…

Firefox OS is working on the same feature (google 'WebUSB')
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