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This is for bicycles what Tesla is for cars

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Re: This is for bicycles what Tesla is for cars

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Post by TsiCClawOfLight »

aidos wrote: post #23

At my previous agency we built the website for a competitor to a bike like this. They gave us one to keep at the office so I have a little experience with it. The bike in this article has all the same problems as the one we had. It's waaaaaay too heavy. You can't really peddle it, not for long anyway, it's virtually impossible. It's only a matter of time before the battery runs out on you and you find yourself stuck.…

This is what E-Bikes look like here: https://dfp2hfrf3mn0u.cloudfront.net/227/227804_31945_tif_zo... can't complain about that one...

Re: This is for bicycles what Tesla is for cars

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Post by rdl »

I'd far prefer a straight electric motorcycle, especially a dirtbike. It's getting to the point where you could probably have a remote cabin powered by solar/wind locally (or small hydro, etc.), with Ka-band satellite or some kind of fixed wireless, and a well and septic field (or tanked water if portable), with all your vehicles electric powered, and be pretty free to choose your own location.

Re: This is for bicycles what Tesla is for cars

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Post by nicholassmith »

That's a lot of money for a bicycle that is going to require some serious fitness to actually use as a bicycle. I like the idea of an ebike that's reasonable priced, but that's definitely not a bicycle in the traditional sense.

Plus for that much money you could buy a reasonably decent actual bicycle (£1k-2k) and spend some time training. You'll be able to do the range (fuel required; cake goes in mouth) and not be too far off the speed.

Re: This is for bicycles what Tesla is for cars

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Post by mcv »

greyman wrote: post #28
revelation wrote: post #15

This weighs 50kg and will not be legally considered a bicycle. So you will need a license plate and insurance. And then it's probably not street legal. So you can drive this in the woods, if you don't get caught.

What EU legislation says about the max. bike weight?

Weight has nothing to do with it. Cargo bikes are heavier than that. But it's motorized and can go up to 65 kph, and that matters a lot.

Re: This is for bicycles what Tesla is for cars

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Post by awjr »

MattBearman wrote: post #27
awjr wrote: post #25

This is not what I would call a bicycle. It's a motorbike that allows you to pedal should you want to. In the UK, this would need a motorbike licence. There are strict rules as to how an electric bicycle may assist you and up to what speed. Non-pedal assist (just turn the handle) are limited to 20kmh otherwise they are considered a motorbike. Pedal assist are effectively self-limiting. Also in the video, the woman ac…

Unless this bike can reach it's top speed in around 2 seconds, I don't the motorcycle was really going for it. (I'm basing this on my not-ridiculously-fast motorcycle which can easily reach 65kmh in 2 seconds)

He slowed down to check her out :) (Sorry I know that's a bad comment.)

I remember riding up to a junction clipped into my pedals some time ago, 'checking' out a girl. It was only when I stopped I realised I hadn't unclipped and fell sideways onto the road. Taught me a very valuable lesson. Always unclip :)

Re: This is for bicycles what Tesla is for cars

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Post by c2prods »

I'm sorry, but 6000€ is way too expensive. I really think there is a market for a not-too-expensive electric small vehicle (with two or four wheels). But it really should be under 4000€. In France, Renault sells the Twizy, a two-seater quadricycle starting at 7500€. Well, it just doesn't sell, except to the richest suburbs of Paris. I think there's a huge market lying there for a cheaper and greener solution to urban mobility, but at 6000€, it's more a gadget and not a game changer…

Re: This is for bicycles what Tesla is for cars

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Post by chrisvineup »

mootothemax wrote: post #34
chrisvineup wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bicycles are probably one innovative and competitive markets out there, the amount of cutting edge technology used to shave gram weight from components is absurd, there are thousands of manufacturers for each niche in the bicycle industry.

Bicycles are probably one innovative and competitive markets out there, the amount of cutting edge technology used to shave gram weight from components is absurd Somewhat unfairly, I consider the above as variations on a theme, rather than innovative new solutions. Three problems I'd like to see solved (admittedly, with no idea other than "by magic" at present): - It's absurdly easy to steal bicycles, locked up or ot…

These are all peripherals for your bike though, I agree totally these areas need more innovation :) ESPECIALLY bike theft.
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