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Re: We Post Nothing About Our Daughter Online

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Post by brador »

pilom wrote: post #71
brador wrote: post #34

It's not you who uploads the pics, it's your friends and family, then they tag the faces. Then fb steals your friends address book info using the facebook app/email connections and builds out a network and ghost profile just for you. You might never use facebook but you're on there. All of us are. Because your friends don't give a damn about privacy and screwed the pooch. And Zuck knows. That's why he said on stage w…

Can they create profiles for children under 13? Can I sue them if my 10 year old child has a ghost profile?

How would you know?

Re: We Post Nothing About Our Daughter Online

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Post by gnaffle »

ef4 wrote: post #37
coldtea wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In 2028 there will be nothing embarrassing about appearing in thousands of online photos dating back to your birth. Because almost everyone will be in the same boat. Or you know, those that aren't will have it as an advantage. Like how everybody is nearly overweight, but still those are aren't have a leg up.

I'll grant that it's logically possible. But I don't really understand why people think it's disadvantageous if others can find out whether or not you were cute when you were two years old. I think it has more to do with fear of what's new than any logical argument. Putting my money where my mouth is, here is my son: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7402/9525304181_8da5d48e22_b.j... In what future dystopia will the pres…

Simple example: Your pretty child is also quite a bit overweight. Or fell and got a big bruise that you for some reason just treated yourself and failed to bring up in some health insurance form.

Less trivial stuff (like having acne) has been used to deny people coverage when they've been diagnosed with cancer.

This is just of the top off my head, which is the point: We simply don't _know_ what might happen in the future. Most probably (and hopefully) not much, put we don't know.

Re: We Post Nothing About Our Daughter Online

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Post by glitch003 »

mgcross wrote: post #23
mashmac2 wrote: post #2

Does anyone else do this (or something similar)? I'm curious to see how people introduce the Internet to their children in a relatively-responsible way.

I'd suggest delegated Gmail accounts: http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/email-delegation-grant... used as contact emails for social networks. I set up a delegated Gmail account for my son so that I can monitor and rescue the account. He uses Steam for online gaming (mostly gmod), and Facebook. My daughter's iPhone is set up with my Apple ID, but her Gmail address is used for iMessage, Facetime, etc. Aside from th…

> I can also lock the iPhone remotely when I get a RenWeb alert that she didn't turn in her homework!

You should totally productize this.

Re: We Post Nothing About Our Daughter Online

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Post by coldtea »

ef4 wrote: post #37
coldtea wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In 2028 there will be nothing embarrassing about appearing in thousands of online photos dating back to your birth. Because almost everyone will be in the same boat. Or you know, those that aren't will have it as an advantage. Like how everybody is nearly overweight, but still those are aren't have a leg up.

I'll grant that it's logically possible. But I don't really understand why people think it's disadvantageous if others can find out whether or not you were cute when you were two years old. I think it has more to do with fear of what's new than any logical argument. Putting my money where my mouth is, here is my son: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7402/9525304181_8da5d48e22_b.j... In what future dystopia will the pres…

>But I don't really understand why people think it's disadvantageous if others can find out whether or not you were cute when you were two years old.

Some examples: you child ends up in a viral video and millions of children all over the world and at his school mock it (e.g the Star Wars Kid, and lots of others). How will that affect his growing up?

Or your kid is not really popular at high school, and some other kids dig up a naked baby pic of his. Nothing special, they just circulate it all around school and make fun of him, and he feels like slicing his wrists or something.

Or the kid posts itself something foolish at 16, which makes him unemployable from every employee that would search for him online.

Re: We Post Nothing About Our Daughter Online

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Post by tokenizer »

roc wrote: post #91
pstack wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It isn't odd, at all. It's great to see someone treat their child's privacy with some value, instead of using them as a way to endear themselves to virtual friends or get laughs and votes on reddit, while putting photos and information out there about their kid, without the kid's permission, that will be there forever. The rest of us had the opportunity to come to the internet in a time when someone wasn't putting ou…

I don't have a problem with an attempt at privacy. I grok that: I have no social networking accounts, nor does my wife, nor is an electronic record of any child of mine tagged, tracked and overshared online. What I don't get is the disconnect between their claim that oversharing is bad and privacy is good, but their actions that underscore a belief that Facebook is really, really important.

I think you're right. They're still in the baby boomer - brand is everything - mindset. At least she'll have a website where she can post her conference schedules and ebooks.

But seriously, anyone who thinks facebook will be important 10 years from now doesn't know anyone aged 14 to 18. Many articles like this are popping up: http://business.time.com/2013/03/08/is-facebook-losing-its-c...

I don't think parents can truly understand that their kids don't want to be on the same "network" as some of them.

P.S. - Doesn't apply to the flock, just the shepherds. The flock will follow when they feel it's necessary.

Re: We Post Nothing About Our Daughter Online

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Post by desas »

samgrover wrote: post #67

I'm not sure how they intend to police photos of their daughter as taken by cameras not under their control, or on accounts not under their control, or other information posted about her by friends and family. Given the technologies involved, it would not be terribly hard to infer the daughter's photographs and personal information (name, etc.) and connect the two. There's also the very real possibility that she may…

You write articles about how you want your childs privacy to be respected and hope some of your friends pay attention.

I have a young child, it's normal for most people to ask my permission before putting photos of him on facebook. Generally, the people who live their lives on facebook over-sharing everything don't tend to ask, though I don't know too many people like that..

Re: We Post Nothing About Our Daughter Online

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Post by snowwrestler »

incongruity wrote: post #65
snowwrestler wrote: post #50

I think this is, digitally, fighting the last war. Kids grow up in their own world, not ours. The idea of checking domain names and Instagram account names before choosing the child's name is hilarious to me. Like domain names and Instagram are going to matter to teenagers 16 years from now.

Domain names are about as close as you can get to infrastructure digital world - so, they may matter - but perhaps not. Instagram? Who's to say - but my hunch is you're right. We purchased a few name related domain names for our firstborn - if they're useless or unwanted, so it goes, but the downside risk seemed minor enough that I decided to go for it. I mean, when you compare it with all the other kid gear that get…

I'd argue that domain names don't matter much right now, for people. How many teenagers have their own name as a domain? How many even want one? Heck, how many adults have or want one? Even with the .name TLD, I don't feel like it's ever really taken off. And there might be a ton of new TLDs in use 15 years from now.

Re: We Post Nothing About Our Daughter Online

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Post by Vivtek »

So if I'm reading this right, they don't post pictures, but they made sure her name was easily Googleable?

My name is Michael Roberts. Go ahead. Try to find out who I am from Google. I mean, sure, throw in my username here and you get my site since that was meant to be findable, but still - from my name alone, I'm effectively anonymous.

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