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iOS7 is not about flat

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Re: iOS7 is not about flat

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It's funny how all these things that have been in Android forever and were criticized for their battery draining powers are suddenly the latest and greatest reason why Apple phones are the best. It's just the way it goes, remember 7 inch tablets? Worst thing ever and everyone lists reasons why. Until Apple made one. Marketshare means everything! Until Android stole that, now market share is a false signal. King of pr…

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Re: iOS7 is not about flat

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"Apple’s guidelines for iOS7 developers actually demand we avoid splash screens ‘or other startup experience.’"

This was an interesting line. I had a debate with my designer friend about this who pointed out that this wasn't new. Turns out, the line about no splash screens is part of the Human Interface Guidelines today. The splash screens seems to have been a community driven interface decision rather than an Apple one.

Re: iOS7 is not about flat

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The model is fairly similiar on Android too, for what it's worth.

This seems like something Apple would want to patent. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw some new Apple Vs. Android, Apple Vs. Mozilla lawsuit about "background fetching".

Android has had "Sync Adapters" since the beginning, a very cool and powerful framework that allows apps to piggy back off each other's data connections, reducing the number of times the cell modem needs to be fired up for background fetches.

Not a new concept, I'm sure the patent battle lines are already well drawn.

Re: iOS7 is not about flat

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It's funny how all these things that have been in Android forever and were criticized for their battery draining powers are suddenly the latest and greatest reason why Apple phones are the best. It's just the way it goes, remember 7 inch tablets? Worst thing ever and everyone lists reasons why. Until Apple made one. Marketshare means everything! Until Android stole that, now market share is a false signal. King of pr…

What's really funny is how right you are, and all the comments made in response to you are proving that the reality distortion field is still in effect post-Jobs. When a competitor does it and Apple says they won't, it's the worst thing in the world. Once the competitor proves its worth and Apple does it, it's now the best thing ever (see xutopia). If you're right but with one hint of an arguable point, there's alway…

As I understand it, it's not the same as Android though.

The app requests to wake up at intervals, and if the OS decides it's OK (based upon battery, network activity and how often you use the app) the app is granted that access.

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Maybe stop worrying what "everyone" is saying, and form your own thoughts about things?

I wasn't particularly worried about it. More noting the usual pattern of " is wrong until Apple does it". Background apps, flat design...

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Re: iOS7 is not about flat

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I think this speaks to something really important that's rarely touched on directly; people hate waiting for software. I despise it. Many ordinary consumers use their phones as a way to solve "waiting" in general (just look what happens when you have a bunch of people in line: they take out their phones to pass the time). To date, the way most developers solve this (Aside from optimizing for performance where possibl…

Yeah, but let's be honest. It's not real productive time. It's Facebook, Twitter, and Candy Crush.

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It's funny how all these things that have been in Android forever and were criticized for their battery draining powers are suddenly the latest and greatest reason why Apple phones are the best. It's just the way it goes, remember 7 inch tablets? Worst thing ever and everyone lists reasons why. Until Apple made one. Marketshare means everything! Until Android stole that, now market share is a false signal. King of pr…

You forget a few things. On Android can't the app just run forever and decide on its own how often to poll the servers? This is a different thing. The OS decides when to schedule things if the app supports it. Also battery life has improved a great deal since the first Android or iPhone device came out. What may have been true years ago isn't necessarily an issue anymore.

Bad developers do have that power. But best practice is to use a SyncAdapter, which works very similarly.

Actually, one of the biggest savings comes from apps all syncing at about the same time... firing up the cell modem is expensive, cheaper to do a bunch of transfers at once than spread out over time.

Re: iOS7 is not about flat

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It's funny how all these things that have been in Android forever and were criticized for their battery draining powers are suddenly the latest and greatest reason why Apple phones are the best. It's just the way it goes, remember 7 inch tablets? Worst thing ever and everyone lists reasons why. Until Apple made one. Marketshare means everything! Until Android stole that, now market share is a false signal. King of pr…

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Re: iOS7 is not about flat

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The background behavior in iOS 7 is a great improvement but can't really be described by those of us who are still under non disclosure agreement. Beyond that there are lots of goodies for developers that have been added to iOS APIs.
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