It's funny how all these things that have been in Android forever and were criticized for their battery draining powers are suddenly the latest and greatest reason why Apple phones are the best. It's just the way it goes, remember 7 inch tablets? Worst thing ever and everyone lists reasons why. Until Apple made one. Marketshare means everything! Until Android stole that, now market share is a false signal. King of profits! Until Samsung took that too. Keep moving that goal post.
iOS7 is not about flat
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#42TLDR: iOS7 allows for background fetching when the app is closed. Allowing for smaller wait times when users open up an app. Is there any way for users to manage this behavior? If not it seems ripe for abuse or just plain laziness.
It's mentioned elsewhere in this thread, but I believe after you posted. Basically, the apps don't control when they can do their background fetching. It's up to the OS, which uses your usage patterns to determine how often backgrounding can occur. So, beyond the setting where you can disable this functionality, the intent is you use your apps like normal and it adjusts itself to your patterns.
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#43It's funny how all these things that have been in Android forever and were criticized for their battery draining powers are suddenly the latest and greatest reason why Apple phones are the best. It's just the way it goes, remember 7 inch tablets? Worst thing ever and everyone lists reasons why. Until Apple made one. Marketshare means everything! Until Android stole that, now market share is a false signal. King of pr…
You forget a few things. On Android can't the app just run forever and decide on its own how often to poll the servers? This is a different thing. The OS decides when to schedule things if the app supports it.
Also battery life has improved a great deal since the first Android or iPhone device came out. What may have been true years ago isn't necessarily an issue anymore.
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#44Just what I want: every developer of the 200 apps I have on my phone thinking theirs is the most important one and trying to take over my entire phone every 20 minutes to background process. The self-centered perspective of the article is even slightly disturbing, basically implying that their app needs to pre-load data because it's so important and can't make the user wait. A common perspective, sure, but this is th…
The theory is that the OS will arbitrate. In practice, well, we'll see how well that works.
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#45It's funny how all these things that have been in Android forever and were criticized for their battery draining powers are suddenly the latest and greatest reason why Apple phones are the best. It's just the way it goes, remember 7 inch tablets? Worst thing ever and everyone lists reasons why. Until Apple made one. Marketshare means everything! Until Android stole that, now market share is a false signal. King of pr…
Sure, except for minor details like, you know, Apple still making more money on phones than Samsung, the mini having around 40% greater screen area than the 7" Android tablets, Apple never having actually had or claimed to have a market share lead in smartphones. Plus the fact we don't know what the effects of iOS7 will be on battery life yet. You know, minor little niggles like that.
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#46Sounds like another way for apps to drain my precious battery life.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Easier said than done. This is trivial for single-purpose apps like Calculator or Weather, where it's easy to predict what the post-launch UI will look like (hint: there's only one screen...) For much larger apps the "fake screenshot" is harmful. Take the Facebook app for example - what should the "fake screenshot" be? iOS does not differentiate between a completely fresh launch vs. a simple restore from background,…
Background fetch actually provides a solution this exact use case. If the user uses your app enough for iOS to let you run in time, the app should be able to "get ready" before the user opens it.
How so? You can know all the state you want, but iOS is still going to display that one static image. If the user is returning from background into a photo gallery, it's still going to show your default image. If the user is opening the app directly into a conversation, it's still going to show your default image.
I don't see how backgrounding solves any of this.
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#48It's funny how all these things that have been in Android forever and were criticized for their battery draining powers are suddenly the latest and greatest reason why Apple phones are the best. It's just the way it goes, remember 7 inch tablets? Worst thing ever and everyone lists reasons why. Until Apple made one. Marketshare means everything! Until Android stole that, now market share is a false signal. King of pr…
It's less funny that we always transform this kind of information as an apple vs android fact.
I was reading the article thinking: "Uh oh, now let's see the comments on HN..."
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#49It's funny how all these things that have been in Android forever and were criticized for their battery draining powers are suddenly the latest and greatest reason why Apple phones are the best. It's just the way it goes, remember 7 inch tablets? Worst thing ever and everyone lists reasons why. Until Apple made one. Marketshare means everything! Until Android stole that, now market share is a false signal. King of pr…
Someone things in life can be relied on. If you could find a way to generate power from fandroid whining the energy crisis would be over.
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#50It's funny how all these things that have been in Android forever and were criticized for their battery draining powers are suddenly the latest and greatest reason why Apple phones are the best. It's just the way it goes, remember 7 inch tablets? Worst thing ever and everyone lists reasons why. Until Apple made one. Marketshare means everything! Until Android stole that, now market share is a false signal. King of pr…
You forget a few things. On Android can't the app just run forever and decide on its own how often to poll the servers? This is a different thing. The OS decides when to schedule things if the app supports it. Also battery life has improved a great deal since the first Android or iPhone device came out. What may have been true years ago isn't necessarily an issue anymore.
iOS will actually disable these features if the battery is getting low. It will also group them together so that the wireless chips are on as briefly as possible.