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How to Teach a Child to Argue

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Re: How to Teach a Child to Argue

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A more appropriate (though less-intriguing) title would be "How to Teach your Child to Reason and Communicate". I think it's a great technique - my university requires freshman to take a class on rhetoric - and it really changed the way I communicate. I was more focussed on what I need to do to communicate effectively rather than what my audience needed to do.

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A more appropriate (though less-intriguing) title would be "How to Teach your Child to Reason and Communicate". I think it's a great technique - my university requires freshman to take a class on rhetoric - and it really changed the way I communicate. I was more focussed on what I need to do to communicate effectively rather than what my audience needed to do.

Yes, rather "argue", the article is actually about: persuading, negotiating, debating, reasoning, communicating.

Not just being "argumentative".

In Canada, we call the class on rhetoric "Critical Thinking".

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post #4

A more appropriate (though less-intriguing) title would be "How to Teach your Child to Reason and Communicate". I think it's a great technique - my university requires freshman to take a class on rhetoric - and it really changed the way I communicate. I was more focussed on what I need to do to communicate effectively rather than what my audience needed to do.

Yes, rather "argue", the article is actually about: persuading, negotiating, debating, reasoning, communicating. Not just being "argumentative". In Canada, we call the class on rhetoric "Critical Thinking".

> Yes, rather "argue", the article is actually about: persuading, negotiating, debating, reasoning, communicating.

Which are all forms of argument. (Ok, the last one is more general than "argue" but it is far too broad to be useful in this context.) One of the minor points the author made is that people often try to downplay disagreement or avoid dealing with it to their detriment. Acknowledge the disagreement up front and employ persuasion, negotiation, and reasoned debate to come to an agreement that both parties live with.

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Excellent article. Couple this with Dale Carnegie (the real stuff, not the manipulative fluff people try to peddle) and you get real people that you can discuss things with.

What is the "real stuff" by name? I am not familiar and would like to investigate further.

Re: How to Teach a Child to Argue

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> Dorothy: “Dad, you look tired. Want to sit down?”

> Me: “Thanks. Where did you have in mind?”

> Dorothy: “Ben & Jerry’s.”

There's a difference between argument through reason and manipulation. I think this guy is teaching his kids to be manipulative.

The little dialog above shows that the daughter doesn't care a wit about how her father feels, she's just using the emotion as a point of leverage. If I had kids and they did this to me, it would sadden me.

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"And let’s face it: Our culture has lost the ability to usefully disagree." -- great point.

Good article.

The fact is, that kids do "run" their parents quite a bit. This approach might just bring it out in the open.

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post #6

Excellent article. Couple this with Dale Carnegie (the real stuff, not the manipulative fluff people try to peddle) and you get real people that you can discuss things with.

What is the "real stuff" by name? I am not familiar and would like to investigate further.

I would imagine he is speaking of his book "How To Win Friend's and Influence People". An excellent book that should be on every entrepreneur's bookshelf (hopefully read then put on the bookshelf...and occasionally reviewed!).

Re: How to Teach a Child to Argue

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> Dorothy: “Dad, you look tired. Want to sit down?” > Me: “Thanks. Where did you have in mind?” > Dorothy: “Ben & Jerry’s.” There's a difference between argument through reason and manipulation. I think this guy is teaching his kids to be manipulative. The little dialog above shows that the daughter doesn't care a wit about how her father feels, she's just using the emotion as a point of leverage. If I had kids and t…

This was an example to show pathos. He had covered logos earlier. And this isn't a quote from his daughter, it's a quote from a theoretical daughter who employed pathos to get what she wanted.
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