17 y/o kicked out of house - seeking devilishly motivated partner • Hacker News Board

Re: 17 y/o kicked out of house - seeking devilishly motivated partner

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Post by kyle4211 » Wed, Sep 04, 2013, 5:37 AM UTC

homakov wrote: post #24

coherentpony wrote: post #7

Believe it, it's possible to not succeed yet want to succeed more than anyone else on the planet. Go to college. Take 4 years to earn a qualification as something to lean back on just in case anything goes wrong. You'll still be 18 in college. You can still do things on the side. You are 17 years old, and have no experience dealing with other people. The fact you are willing to let anyone invest in you without knowin…

>Believe it, it's possible to not succeed yet want to succeed more than anyone else on the planet absolutely

It is possible, absolutely.

However, in effectively all my personal relationships, success correlates strongly with magnitude of desire.

Re: 17 y/o kicked out of house - seeking devilishly motivated partner

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Post by wittedhaddock » Wed, Sep 04, 2013, 5:39 AM UTC

pfisch wrote: post #57

I am a developer on the Road Redemption team.( http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/darkseasgames/road-redem... ) We also got greenlit last week. Tell me more about your Pipe Bots iOS game. You can email me at fischp@gmail.com if you'd like.

Hey pfisch, thanks for taking the time to read my letter. Congratulations for the greenlit, that's quite a feat!

I'll get in touch shortly.

Re: 17 y/o kicked out of house - seeking devilishly motivated partner

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Post by coolnow » Wed, Sep 04, 2013, 5:41 AM UTC

wittedhaddock wrote: post #44

bithive123 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll sacrifice some potential wit and explain that your writing style is rather self important. It's not uncommon at your age (not trying to be insulting here) but you need to balance your desire to self-promote with a demonstrated ability to get to the point. People will notice more if you show instead of tell. Your letter has a lot of words in it which are clearly used in an attempt to impress. Coupled with the num…

Thank you for your feedback. It would be so much more helpful if you could provide specific examples within my writing that are grammatically incorrect. Lastly, to comment, I am very curious to know why I am receiving more feedback on my style of writing rather than the ideas I am attempting to communicate.

Probably because your writing grates people the wrong way. It's almost cringe worthy because I'm sure lots of Hacker News readers were on forums at a young age and wanted to impress someone or sound clever by adding unnecessarily "big" words, who would look back and feel like slapping their past selves for doing that. At this point, you sound like ForTheWolfX, a self proclaimed child prodigy who once posted on reddit boasting a about his intelligence (not that I'm saying you are) and gave advice to people about things he had no experience in, such as long term relationships. the boy was like 16 years old and thought he was in the perfect relationship that was 100% going to last forever. It's childish.

Re: 17 y/o kicked out of house - seeking devilishly motivated partner

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Post by asenna » Wed, Sep 04, 2013, 5:46 AM UTC

wittedhaddock wrote: post #53

carterschonwald wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. To effectively grow or run a business, fluency in risk and payoff distributions of your decisions is important. Taking the time to up your education a bit decreases the downside risk of failure, forces you to learn a wider range of material than you (realistically) will teach yourself, and it doesn't hurt that brain cognitive development doesn't really end till 22-24 age range in most people. These all improv…

I think Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Michael Dell, Mark Zuckerberg, and Bill Gates would disagree.

All of them had things taking off before they decided to drop school.

Re: 17 y/o kicked out of house - seeking devilishly motivated partner

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Post by andrewfong » Wed, Sep 04, 2013, 5:47 AM UTC

wittedhaddock wrote: post #44

bithive123 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll sacrifice some potential wit and explain that your writing style is rather self important. It's not uncommon at your age (not trying to be insulting here) but you need to balance your desire to self-promote with a demonstrated ability to get to the point. People will notice more if you show instead of tell. Your letter has a lot of words in it which are clearly used in an attempt to impress. Coupled with the num…

Thank you for your feedback. It would be so much more helpful if you could provide specific examples within my writing that are grammatically incorrect. Lastly, to comment, I am very curious to know why I am receiving more feedback on my style of writing rather than the ideas I am attempting to communicate.

> Lastly, to comment, I am very curious to know why I am receiving more feedback on my style of writing rather than the ideas I am attempting to communicate.

From your post: "Invest in me, not my ideas."

As it so happens, your writing style says a lot about you.

Re: 17 y/o kicked out of house - seeking devilishly motivated partner

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Post by andrewfong » Wed, Sep 04, 2013, 5:53 AM UTC

wittedhaddock wrote: post #47

andrewfong wrote: post #35

Lots of good responses here, but my 2 cents: Work on your writing. Aim for simplicity and clarity. Avoid words like "explicate" when "discuss" works just as well. Students with strong STEM interests often undervalue good, simple writing. But learning to write is really about learning to communicate. And one of the most important skills for success, especially as a founder, is communication. I recommend Strunk & White…

Unequivocally, I agree. Effective communication involves gauging the audience qualitatively and responding accordingly. Thank you for your insight. Do you have any feedback about the ideas that which I was attempting to communicate?

Sure. In respse to your general point about desire and success, I would advise you to read this: http://www.harvard.edu/president/2012-baccalaureate-service-...

Start at the paragraph that says, "Extraordinary, indeed."

You may not agree with her overall point, but your life will not be the worse for having considered it.

Re: 17 y/o kicked out of house - seeking devilishly motivated partner

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Post by wittedhaddock » Wed, Sep 04, 2013, 5:53 AM UTC

nwmcsween wrote: post #37

wittedhaddock wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wholeheartedly disagree.

What separates success from failure is the ability to learn from your failures and to try again. You failed at both so far.

Would you please be more specific?

Re: 17 y/o kicked out of house - seeking devilishly motivated partner

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Post by fallinghawks » Wed, Sep 04, 2013, 5:59 AM UTC

wittedhaddock wrote: post #53

carterschonwald wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. To effectively grow or run a business, fluency in risk and payoff distributions of your decisions is important. Taking the time to up your education a bit decreases the downside risk of failure, forces you to learn a wider range of material than you (realistically) will teach yourself, and it doesn't hurt that brain cognitive development doesn't really end till 22-24 age range in most people. These all improv…

I think Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Michael Dell, Mark Zuckerberg, and Bill Gates would disagree.

You reject reasonable, considered arguments from smart people who have been through what you've been through and advise you to go in a specific direction. So it looks like you've already made up your mind about what you want to do.

Re: 17 y/o kicked out of house - seeking devilishly motivated partner

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Post by fallinghawks » Wed, Sep 04, 2013, 6:02 AM UTC

bifrost wrote: post #39

Dare I ask why your mom "removed" your computer and why you deserve being kicked out of your parents house?

I suspect you're not going to get an answer to that one.

Re: 17 y/o kicked out of house - seeking devilishly motivated partner

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Post by rl3 » Wed, Sep 04, 2013, 6:04 AM UTC

Have you considered that in the future, you may regret having written this? Anything you post on the internet that is tied to your real identity (such as this) can work against you later in life, especially when it comes to employment. Keep in mind that the first thing most employers will do is put your name into a search engine.

If I were you, I'd let HN comments run their course for feedback, and then delete or protect your Google Docs link once things slow down.

Also, too much enthusiasm can be a bad thing, especially if it crosses the line into hypomania or mania. The insidious part is that people who are in such states usually don't know it and cannot recognize that they are. I don't know if this is relevant; just something to be aware of.

Sorry to sound like such a downer. Fortunately there's a lot of other advice here that's a bit more upbeat. Good luck.