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Re: The Great Language Game: How many languages can you distinguish between?

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Post by lars512 » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 11:42 PM UTC

prawn wrote: post #26

lars512 wrote: post #3

Hi guys, I'm the author. Here's a related blog post I did introducing the game: http://quietlyamused.org/blog/2013/09/01/introducing-the-gre... Feedback's much appreciated, and if you encounter any bugs, please report them via email to lars+glg@yencken.org If there's a language you'd like to see that's missing, consider helping out by finding some good quality language samples or news podcasts in that language and em…

Might be cool to weight scores per round based on speed of selection. That will, however, favour even more those who get easy combos or languages. French, Thai, Arabic, Cantonese, Italian, etc are all very easy when compared with differentiation between Yugoslavian languages or guessing some that I either hadn't heard of (Kannada) or I'm much less familiar with (Scandinavian).

Yeah, weighting based on speed would be a cool idea. Thanks!

Re: The Great Language Game: How many languages can you distinguish between?

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Post by lars512 » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 11:43 PM UTC

FreeFull wrote: post #128

lars512 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Volume's been normalised using mp3gain. I manually screen all the snippets for English, music or other noise, and obvious giveaways. Looks like a Ukraine case slipped through -- it's in my todo list to remove. Thanks!

The Slovak sample is very obvious, since it says Slovak at one point.

Thanks for reporting it -- that's a bug.

Re: The Great Language Game: How many languages can you distinguish between?

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Post by lars512 » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 11:58 PM UTC

clueless123 wrote: post #152

lars512 wrote: post #3

Hi guys, I'm the author. Here's a related blog post I did introducing the game: http://quietlyamused.org/blog/2013/09/01/introducing-the-gre... Feedback's much appreciated, and if you encounter any bugs, please report them via email to lars+glg@yencken.org If there's a language you'd like to see that's missing, consider helping out by finding some good quality language samples or news podcasts in that language and em…

Where can we see the list of all the languages available? Is Quechua available? (Peruvian/Bolivian and the incas native language )

I'll have to make a page showing the available languages.

Are you a Quechua speaker? I'd love to add it.

Re: The Great Language Game: How many languages can you distinguish between?

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Post by lars512 » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 11:59 PM UTC

asolove wrote: post #114

lars512 wrote: post #3

Hi guys, I'm the author. Here's a related blog post I did introducing the game: http://quietlyamused.org/blog/2013/09/01/introducing-the-gre... Feedback's much appreciated, and if you encounter any bugs, please report them via email to lars+glg@yencken.org If there's a language you'd like to see that's missing, consider helping out by finding some good quality language samples or news podcasts in that language and em…

One way to make the game harder is to remove clips that have obvious references to proper nouns tied to one country. Many of my correct answers came from hearing the name of a person or place associated with one of the languages.

I try to eliminate these cases. If you notice one, email me with the language it was and I'll fix it.

Re: The Great Language Game: How many languages can you distinguish between?

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Post by lars512 » Wed, Sep 04, 2013, 12:00 AM UTC

stordoff wrote: post #101

lars512 wrote: post #3

Hi guys, I'm the author. Here's a related blog post I did introducing the game: http://quietlyamused.org/blog/2013/09/01/introducing-the-gre... Feedback's much appreciated, and if you encounter any bugs, please report them via email to lars+glg@yencken.org If there's a language you'd like to see that's missing, consider helping out by finding some good quality language samples or news podcasts in that language and em…

I hit next twice after guessing correctly, which triggered a Python KeyError. Traceback: http://pastebin.com/iJ5wfaMe

Thanks for this -- I was (embarassingly) running in debug mode due to a bad code snippet in my runserver script. Your report helped me fix both the KeyError and the debug mode.

Re: The Great Language Game: How many languages can you distinguish between?

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Post by lars512 » Wed, Sep 04, 2013, 12:08 AM UTC

morgante wrote: post #87

lars512 wrote: post #3

Hi guys, I'm the author. Here's a related blog post I did introducing the game: http://quietlyamused.org/blog/2013/09/01/introducing-the-gre... Feedback's much appreciated, and if you encounter any bugs, please report them via email to lars+glg@yencken.org If there's a language you'd like to see that's missing, consider helping out by finding some good quality language samples or news podcasts in that language and em…

Definitely a very cool concept, but the code could be improved a bit. I'd ideally like to see something like this primarily to be run via Javascript. Then once you guess it'd just download a new audio clip + the correct answer... way less lag.

The site was quite degraded -- try it again now.

Re: The Great Language Game: How many languages can you distinguish between?

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Post by prawn » Wed, Sep 04, 2013, 1:21 AM UTC

saraid216 wrote: post #139

jessaustin wrote: post #132

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...the other kind of indians. In an American context, it is understandable to think "Indian" signifies " American Indian". Now that East Indian immigration verges on outnumbering American Indians, that will probably change, but it's pretty silly to get offended by historical geographical misunderstandings. I mean, let's vilify Columbus for the right reasons. Besides, what's wrong with Native Americans? Why would it b…

> Why would it be a put-down to share a name with them? The put-down is that Asian Indians are "the other kind", which implies second-class.

Doesn't it just imply second to come to mind, which is fair enough depending on your location? Doubt class is a consideration at all.

Re: The Great Language Game: How many languages can you distinguish between?

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Post by xtracto » Wed, Sep 04, 2013, 3:22 AM UTC

lars512 wrote: post #165

stordoff wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hit next twice after guessing correctly, which triggered a Python KeyError. Traceback: http://pastebin.com/iJ5wfaMe

Thanks for this -- I was (embarassingly) running in debug mode due to a bad code snippet in my runserver script. Your report helped me fix both the KeyError and the debug mode.

>/root/languagegame/languagegame/db.py

Running the web-page under root sounds dangerous.

Re: The Great Language Game: How many languages can you distinguish between?

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Post by alagappanr » Wed, Sep 04, 2013, 4:40 AM UTC

lars512 wrote: post #3

Hi guys, I'm the author. Here's a related blog post I did introducing the game: http://quietlyamused.org/blog/2013/09/01/introducing-the-gre... Feedback's much appreciated, and if you encounter any bugs, please report them via email to lars+glg@yencken.org If there's a language you'd like to see that's missing, consider helping out by finding some good quality language samples or news podcasts in that language and em…

You are directly sending a POST request to the {domain}/play/ URL I presume. I gave the URL to my friend and it gave him a 405 Method Not Allowed error.

Re: The Great Language Game: How many languages can you distinguish between?

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Post by mutation » Wed, Sep 04, 2013, 9:50 AM UTC

stevoski wrote: post #144

mutation wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(Disclaimer: I am a native croatian speaker.) There's a significant difference between croatian and serbian language: croatian language is composed of three dialects and a standard language which are not found in serbian. It was a political movement to merge one of those dialects (shtokavian) with serbian language. So, serbian is somewhat similar to shtokavian but not to other dialects that compose the rest of the cr…

And...we have our unavoidable example showing that any public statement on languages vs dialects becomes political and controversial.

I am not sure what you mean. I tried to explain the situation. "Serbo-croatian" as such doesn't exist (http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/535405/Serbo-Croat...). Yeah, you can mix both of them and speak serbo-croatian as a mixture of both, but people also mix english language with their mother tongues. How many kids today name their language as "croatian-english" or "german-bosnian" for example? And I heard both of these in real-life situations.