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Re: Nokia acquired by Microsoft

#53
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That kills my hopes for a Nokia Android phone. Also, Elop seems like the least interesting character to succeed Ballmer. What does he bring to the table? What has he done? Guy looks like a careerist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Elop#Career

I'm not sure that was ever likely with Elop at the helm, but Nokia is now out of the phone business until at least 2016.

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Re: Nokia acquired by Microsoft

#54
post #2

Well, this makes all the speculation about Elop succeeding Ballmer that much more interesting.

It's especially interesting in light of shareholder activism by Value Act. Value Act had been against the devices strategy. Two days ago they struck a deal to get a seat on MSFT's board[0]. Was this part of the deal? Or is this an upraised finger in the rearview mirror?

The kremlinology of all this is very complex.

[0] http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/08/31/micr...

Re: Nokia acquired by Microsoft

#55
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post #38

This is a great move. There is no money in being an Android vendor except if you're Samsung and are totally vertically integrated. With Windows Phone, Nokia and Microsoft at least have some hope of carving out a profitable stake in the market. Anecdotally, I'm very impressed with some of the new Lumias. I got a 620 to replace my stolen iPhone, and for $200 unlocked its phenomenal phone. The build quality makes a flag…

How well does the first party Instagram app run on that Lumia?

Pretty well: http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/6tag/7d795cdf-fb...

Re: Nokia acquired by Microsoft

#56
post #45
post #38

This is a great move. There is no money in being an Android vendor except if you're Samsung and are totally vertically integrated. With Windows Phone, Nokia and Microsoft at least have some hope of carving out a profitable stake in the market. Anecdotally, I'm very impressed with some of the new Lumias. I got a 620 to replace my stolen iPhone, and for $200 unlocked its phenomenal phone. The build quality makes a flag…

How well does the first party Instagram app run on that Lumia?

Better than nokia maps and nokia transit on your iphone/android.

Re: Nokia acquired by Microsoft

#57

So Elop was in fact a Trojan Horse? Wonder what this does to the already strained MSFT vendor relationships. You could now almost guarantee vendors will start to completely dump Windows on ARM and possibly even look for alternatives to Windows x86.

I disagree. I doubt purchasing Nokia's phone business would make PC vendors any more worried than Surface/Surface Pro did. Windows is still king of the desktop and unless Android becomes a desktop OS or Apple starts licensing OS X there aren't any real alternatives with consumer brand recognition. If Ubuntu were the answer then System 76 would be more than a boutique PC maker. If MS starts making desktops, laptops, a…

HTC and Sumsung are almost irrelevant in the Windows Phone ecosystem anyway. They obviously made little effort and aren't likely to make more, with or without the acquisition.

Re: Nokia acquired by Microsoft

#59
post #50
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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It's a very old, very immature joke that adds absolutely nothing to the conversation. You've been on HN long enough that I'm surprised you're surprised.

Ah, very true. Although the purpose of posting it was not for the sake of the joke itself. Anyways, I'll be more mindful of contributing to your ego (intelligence?) with my responses next time. ;)

Re: Nokia acquired by Microsoft

#60
post #2

Well, this makes all the speculation about Elop succeeding Ballmer that much more interesting.

Yeah, it would be interesting to see if any MSFT shareholders are that dumb. Elop's idiocy destroyed Nokia, now let's sic him on Microsoft too.

Nokia was well on its way down before Elop. It's not fair to pin that on him. But, it did seem pretty clear (even then) that his turnaround strategy involved a Microsoft purchase.
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