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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do we have trigger warnings for people who have been through other horrible things in life? That would be a lot of warnings on a lot of posts. Saying the post is NSFW should be enough.
Don't underestimate the strength of the response to such a trigger.
That's true for any survivor of any kind of horrible experience. Why single out rape?
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#63Detail of the content emerged from Major General Antonio Taguba, the former army officer who conducted an inquiry into the Abu Ghraib jail in Iraq. Allegations of rape and abuse were included in his 2004 report but the fact there were photographs was never revealed. He later confirmed their existence in an interview with the Daily Telegraph in May 2009. The London newspaper further noted “graphic nature of some of th…
These photos are the same as those published by the Boston Globe and determined to be fakes from a pornography website. A mod should kill this story.
The CIA would never be capable of finding some woman to claim the photos were of her even though no trace of their presence on the porn site could be found. That would be totally unbelievable. Much more likely that the disturbing images of murder and rape showed these incidents to be totally not a big deal. /sarcasm
Whether they're real or fake, I'd imagine these possible fake images are a more accurate description than what descriptions we've heard.
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#64Because there is considerable doubt that this is even a genuine news story, rather than fake sensationalism, it is best to flag this story for the attention of the moderation team here. Hacker News is supposed to be about NEWS, not propaganda.
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#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
These photos are the same as those published by the Boston Globe and determined to be fakes from a pornography website. A mod should kill this story.
The CIA would never be capable of finding some woman to claim the photos were of her even though no trace of their presence on the porn site could be found. That would be totally unbelievable. Much more likely that the disturbing images of murder and rape showed these incidents to be totally not a big deal. /sarcasm Whether they're real or fake, I'd imagine these possible fake images are a more accurate description t…
No. The Boston Globe and the New York Times ran a massive investigation of this, and the editor of the Globe was nearly fired for their publication.
Personally I can tell you the uniforms, equipment, settings etc. are all wrong.
"Whether real or fake" is just about the most inane excuse for journalistic malpractice that I've ever heard. It's akin to Dan Rather's "The story wasn't true, but I felt that it needed to be told."
You want to be one of the cool kids, wear a Che t-shirt and a Guy Fawkes mask, claim the mantle of truth and justice while decrying the evil empire? That's fine. But it is wholly unacceptable to play the apologist for publishers of false rape photographs. It endangers lives, insults rape victims, and makes a mockery of true journalism.
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#66Could a moderator please put some sort of warning in the title? Those images make me sick and so angry it's unbelievable.
I don't think they are real. Another commenter said they were previously identified as being from a niche Hungarian porn movie.
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#67The last time I saw these specific photos in a story (== propaganda piece), it turned out they were from a Balkan porn movie involving consenting (I guess) actors, with a military theme, taken out of context. This was maybe 8 years ago. I'm certain US forces have committed rape. Generally, against other US forces. There were probably some cases of US vs. Iraqi rape, such as the Tikrit child-rape referenced in the sto…
It makes me wonder. How the fuck does the Boston Globe manage to publish fake pictures? Like how does that happen?
I don't know the answer to that question, but what I do know is that the psychological end result is "so those horrible pictures I saw weren't of the real event? Ok that makes me feel a little better."
edit: not to mention that it discredits the story for many others. "Well if the pictures weren't real how do I know anything else was."
UPDATE: for anyone still following this thread which was promptly killed here is the story which did in fact happen (although the real pictured were killed by Obama no doubt):http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-3133434.html
This has been a classical demonstration of how unwanted stories are killed and buried in a sophisticated machine called American War Propaganda and PR
The facts remain, however.
-a 14 year old girl's family was shot dead while they lay asleep (including a 5 year old)
-the 14 year old girl was gang raped by a bunch of US soldiers
-the girl was also shoot dead and her body was burned with kerosene
-the soldiers all got between 5 and a 100 prison sentences
-the story was very effectively killed and discredited by publishing it alongside fake pictures... Then again we can't have our freedom dispersing heroes at risk of retaliation attacks based on the acts of these few isolated cases right?
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#69The last time I saw these specific photos in a story (== propaganda piece), it turned out they were from a Balkan porn movie involving consenting (I guess) actors, with a military theme, taken out of context. This was maybe 8 years ago. I'm certain US forces have committed rape. Generally, against other US forces. There were probably some cases of US vs. Iraqi rape, such as the Tikrit child-rape referenced in the sto…
It is fairly hilarious how gullible a good chunk of HN is now. If they were really serious about removing the US as a tech and world leader they would start building services in their own country instead of posting bullshit stories and falling all over themselves when Stripe finally comes out in their country.