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This is a disgusting atrocity. I can't believe Americans aren't sufficiently disturbed about it to do something, and the rest of the world is powerless to do anything in the face of such gross violations of human rights.

They are happy with their lives. Manning & Assange wanted to bring all this out. Did someone listen to them?

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For every picture taken, how many atrocious acts were not recorded?

That's what makes it worse because we don't know how to get the people that did it behind closed doors. I know some one who was in Kuwait during the Gulf War and they told me how their women were raped and killed.

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Everyone can see how these "soldiers" aided the enemy and put American lives at risk. Oh but aiding the enemy is a crime just for whistle blowers, not rapist torturers, right. Obama and the military even admit that this harms American interests as they refuse to release the photos!

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand. Is the headline already not warning enough? Are you offended by the _existence_ of images ?

Trigger warnings are important. A rape survivor may have braced themselves for a textual story on rape, but have been completely unprepared for the images.

Do we have trigger warnings for people who have been through other horrible things in life? That would be a lot of warnings on a lot of posts. Saying the post is NSFW should be enough.

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"essentially an evil thing...to initiate a war of aggression...is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime, differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole."

-- International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg

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"In May, [Obama] said: “The most direct consequence of releasing [the pictures], I believe, would be to inflame anti-American public opinion and to put our troops in greater danger.”" Is that supposed to be an explanation? Moreover I can't understand why they let pictures like that be taken.

Then don't do stupid stuff. This is what pisses me off about Obama's policy regarding stuff like this, and deciding to protect the people doing the wrong stuff, and prosecuting the people who expose them instead. I don't know if it's because he's corrupt, or because he actually thinks he's taking the right decision in "protecting the troops/spy agents/whatever", but ultimately the decision is a bad one, as it encoura…

> Americans (no, not just the American government) think their actions of aggression have no consequence and that there's no blowback.

I know it feels good to direct your outrage and hate toward the general "American," but this is no different than someone saying things like "Muslims (not just extremist ones) are violent and want to destroy Western culture." That is, you are engaging in the same kind of prejudice that underlies atrocities like this.

Many Americans, and especially those reading HN, find this every bit as disturbing as you do and fully realize its repercussions.

> And no, it won't matter if they murder civilians, too, because that's pretty much US' policy overseas, too. So in their minds, fair is fair.

It seems to me that "fair is fair" in your mind as well, and this comment, in a different way, is as unsettling as the article.

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"The release, by CBS News, of the photographs" So why can't I find this at CBS news or any other reputable source?

Your comment should be upvoted to the top. I think the consensus is that they originally came from a porno. The Boston Globe had to apologize for running with them when the story originally aired:

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/arti...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trigger warnings are important. A rape survivor may have braced themselves for a textual story on rape, but have been completely unprepared for the images.

Do we have trigger warnings for people who have been through other horrible things in life? That would be a lot of warnings on a lot of posts. Saying the post is NSFW should be enough.

Why would you argue against this reason for a warning in a discussion thread where the primary complaint is "but I'm at work" ?
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