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Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

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Post by ekurutepe »

rcruzeiro wrote: post #186
wheels wrote: post #110

There's a lot of bad information here on Berlin. For context, I'm a non-EU software developer that lives in Berlin and now has permanent residence, as is my girlfriend. Germany is actually one of the easiest countries to get an immigrant work visa for. I would recommend skipping seeking asylum. There's a large enough job market in Berlin for developers that the work visa route will almost certainly be the fastest and…

Are there any work permits needed for EU citizens? I'm planning on trying the Berlin startup scene this year. Thanks,

No. EU citizens can work everywhere in the EU, especially as a software dev.

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

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Post by Nux »

kmfrk wrote: post #98
Blahah wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same is true of England. We have the EDL who are a bunch of racist morons. But they are a tiny, despised minority, and certainly shouldn't deter anyone from seeking asylum here.

UKIP, too.

Don't forget the "Liberty" party: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWcVguB0GaY

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

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Post by peterjmag »

wheels wrote: post #203
zb wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm guessing that you (like me) come from one of exactly 7 countries whose citizens have the privilege of being able to apply for a work visa from within Germany while here on a tourist visa (or, more commonly, a visa-waiver). I can assure you that Syria is most definitely not on that list, and that almost everyone in the world is actually required to obtain a work visa in their home country .

I am. My girlfriend is not. We both got our visas in Germany. (Her case, however, was slightly different than the norm since she went from an academic work visa for post-docs, to a Blue Card, to permanent residence.) A Syrian would certainly need a visa to enter Germany in general. I believe that you're incorrect as to whether or not, given a valid visa to enter the country, a Syrian citizen would be able to apply fo…

I believe zb is correct. I'm also a Blue Card holder living in Berlin, and as a US citizen, I was able to enter Germany on a tourist visa and then apply for the Blue Card from here. However, a friend of mine from the Philippines was in a very similar situation (got a job offer while he was here on a tourist visa) and he had to return home to apply for the Blue Card, since the Philippines are not on that short list of exempted countries. Your girlfriend's case was indeed different, since she wasn't trying to convert from a tourist visa.

Here are a couple of resources on the matter:

http://www.make-it-in-germany.com/en/working/guide-to-workin...

Particularly the three paragraphs starting with "You must apply for your visa in your home country before travelling to Germany."

https://www.daad.de/deutschland/nach-deutschland/bewerbung/e...

Starting around "Important! If you enter the country without a visa or with a Schengen visa..." (This site's aimed towards students, but I believe the info on entering the country is still applicable here.)

In the OP's specific case (especially considering the fact that the German embassy in Syria is currently closed), I would definitely recommend contacting an immigration lawyer in Germany before entering the country. It's possible that there are other options or exceptions that I'm not aware of.

EDIT: Just noticed that those two links have slightly different lists of exempted countries. The daad.de link might just be out of date, because the following official site also lists only seven countries: http://www.berlin.de/labo/auslaender/dienstleistungen/bes_st...

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

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Post by straight_talk_2 »

Kiro wrote: post #212
antocv wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gazprom, Sudan oil interests, Bilderberg group member and generally being a jerk.

I like him.

Good politicians are experts at manipulating people to like them.

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

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Post by tussi »

egeozcan wrote: post #122
antocv wrote: post #26

Skip Germany and go to Sweden or England, where people are more than happy to speak English, and there is already many Syrians in Sweden, especially in Sodertalje. Sweden will accept you based on your skills far more easily than Germany, all you need is to find a job, and right now the market is open for a guy of your skills - programmers are in high demand. Look around on various Sweden/Stockholm job posting sites,…

As a Turkish who has been working in Germany (Stuttgart) for the last four years, I'd recommend here, Stuttgart, as a pleasant destination. When you find a job which pays a reasonable amount, they can hire you and you get a visa. Don't ever go to Turkey. Don't even enter Turkish soil. You'll be trapped. They started treating Syrians as if they were second class and didn't even keep guiding them, let alone provide she…

I leave in germany in Munich. People will not say it. But they are not just conservative but quite racist.Most compagny here ask foreigners to give their ass (gay 4 job)in order to keep à job or get one....specially in the it. Didnt comply So i got fired..thats reality

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

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Post by egeozcan »

tussi wrote: post #216
egeozcan wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a Turkish who has been working in Germany (Stuttgart) for the last four years, I'd recommend here, Stuttgart, as a pleasant destination. When you find a job which pays a reasonable amount, they can hire you and you get a visa. Don't ever go to Turkey. Don't even enter Turkish soil. You'll be trapped. They started treating Syrians as if they were second class and didn't even keep guiding them, let alone provide she…

I leave in germany in Munich. People will not say it. But they are not just conservative but quite racist.Most compagny here ask foreigners to give their ass (gay 4 job)in order to keep à job or get one....specially in the it. Didnt comply So i got fired..thats reality

Wow, maybe I just got too lucky. My boss and coworkers would be the last people I'd call racist. Well, sometimes they make jokes about my accent and "weird keyboard layout" but those are all friendly jokes. I'm really sorry for you. By the way, did this happen a lot? Asking out of curiosity; what kind of rules did they want you to comply?

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

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Post by vr000m »

notJim wrote: post #202
vr000m wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Salaries are pretty low compared to the US. 50-75k euros for developers is pretty common (even in Scandinavia). On the other hand living costs in berlin are much lower compared to other cities in europe (even compared to other cities in germany). However, I cannot confirm the minimum wages required by a job under blue card. AFAIR, the blue card covers a broad spectrum of jobs and the wage listed above probably take d…

Are these numbers before, or after taxes?

before taxes.

Taxes in europe are very situation specific (married/single, mortgage, car/bus/work-from-home, public-health insurance, pension, unemployment). I guess this is also country specific inside the EU. For example, in Finland, we do not have progressive tax (or so I am made to believe).

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

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Post by michuk »

We're looking for a Python hacker in a personalization & analytics startup Filmaster.TV. We're based in Warsaw, Poland. It shouldn't be a problem getting a work permit. We're already hiring an American guy and we've been through the procedure. Read about the job and the company here: http://filmaster.tv/jobs.html and if you're interested, happy to talk on hangout.

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

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Post by VargardObyron »

w_t_payne wrote: post #199
VargardObyron wrote: post #192

1) Get on a plane to UK 2) cut your passport into very small parts and get rid of just after landing 3) ???? (don't tell where are you from) 4) Profit after 3-4 months waiting for asylum. At least that was standard tactics from people from arabic countries. Never say where are you from!

IMHO, it is easier to follow the rules. If you have a genuine need for asylum, then the UK is obliged, under international law, to offer it. What the UK is not obliged to do is put up with people who try to pull a fast one; and there are a lot of those around, moresthepity. If you present yourself honestly to the UKBA officials, with a genuine need for asylum, with relevant documentation, telling the truth, and not t…

or they will put you in temporary house and send back to syria just so you can be presented to officials.
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